Unmarked Police Cars... Getting Sneakier?

[bradruth]

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
If they don't stop for an unmarked unit, but do for a marked unit, does that get them in more trouble or no?

What kind of restrictions are there for plainclothes/unmarked?

These questions point to the same answer--you can't charge people with Fleeing unless you're in uniform or in a marked squad car.

 

[bradruth]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Baked
If you ain't breaking the law, why should you care what the hell cop cars look like?

Peope with this mentality piss me off. That isn't how it works.

How does it work?

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
If they don't stop for an unmarked unit, but do for a marked unit, does that get them in more trouble or no?

What kind of restrictions are there for plainclothes/unmarked?

These questions point to the same answer--you can't charge people with Fleeing unless you're in uniform or in a marked squad car.

Interesting, even if it is lit up like a christmas tree?

 

[bradruth]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
If they don't stop for an unmarked unit, but do for a marked unit, does that get them in more trouble or no?

What kind of restrictions are there for plainclothes/unmarked?

These questions point to the same answer--you can't charge people with Fleeing unless you're in uniform or in a marked squad car.

Interesting, even if it is lit up like a christmas tree?

Yep.

 

[mayonnaise]

EDIT And wtf was a woman doing revving her 3000GT at a Cobra Silly women[/quote]

A twin turbo awd 3000gt (VR4) will put up quite a fight to the cobra. Stock, they run 13's all day long and some drivers of great skill have gotten them into 12's if memory serves me right.

 

[potato28]

I saw two undercover cops in a riced out honda civic pull over someone... friends and I were like HOLY SH!T!!

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
If they don't stop for an unmarked unit, but do for a marked unit, does that get them in more trouble or no?

What kind of restrictions are there for plainclothes/unmarked?

These questions point to the same answer--you can't charge people with Fleeing unless you're in uniform or in a marked squad car.

Interesting, even if it is lit up like a christmas tree?

Yep.

That's pretty interesting.. I know I'd sure sure as hell pull over if I saw blue and red lights flashing behind me, regardless of where they were on the car.. hmm.

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Baked
If you ain't breaking the law, why should you care what the hell cop cars look like?

Peope with this mentality piss me off. That isn't how it works.

How does it work?

The whole mentality of "If you're not doing anything wrong, you shouldn't care (about your rights)" is wrong. I don't really know how to explain it, perhaps someone else can do a better job.

 

[ViviTheMage]

impalas are old, saw them liek 3 years ago here in eden prairie, MN. They have gone to other cars, even ****** ones...like caprices .

and cars like jeep cherokees, basicaly anything. saw one in a jetta the other day.

 

[bradruth]

Originally posted by: Eli
That's pretty interesting.. I know I'd sure sure as hell pull over if I saw blue and red lights flashing behind me, regardless of where they were on the car.. hmm.

The whole mentality of "If you're not doing anything wrong, you shouldn't care (about your rights)" is wrong. I don't really know how to explain it, perhaps someone else can do a better job.

The only thing that's going to happen if people don't stop is that a number of marked squads will swoop in and they may have some guns pointed at them.

I agree if rights were in question, but that hardly applies to unmarked cars.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: Eli
That's pretty interesting.. I know I'd sure sure as hell pull over if I saw blue and red lights flashing behind me, regardless of where they were on the car.. hmm.

The whole mentality of "If you're not doing anything wrong, you shouldn't care (about your rights)" is wrong. I don't really know how to explain it, perhaps someone else can do a better job.

The only thing that's going to happen if people don't stop is that a number of marked squads will swoop in and they may have some guns pointed at them.

I agree if rights were in question, but that hardly applies to unmarked cars.

Yeah, I know it doesen't apply to unmarked cars.. but I guess it's the whole slippery slope thing. That's why I put that part in quotes, since it doesen't really apply to this situation... but it's the idea of it that irks me.

 

[Kelvrick]

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
If they don't stop for an unmarked unit, but do for a marked unit, does that get them in more trouble or no?

What kind of restrictions are there for plainclothes/unmarked?

These questions point to the same answer--you can't charge people with Fleeing unless you're in uniform or in a marked squad car.

Interesting, even if it is lit up like a christmas tree?

Yep.

If a guy is in an unmarked car, and its at night, how can I (or the usual victim, a young female) know if he's in uniform? Gotta slow down and wave the cop up next to you to check out his uni?

 

[ValkyrieofHouston]

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: bradruth
I've worked in a number of unmarked cars. It has it's pros and cons.

Pros and cons like...? I'm curious

Pro: You see a lot more and therefore can do a lot more.

Con: The restrictions on certain laws regarding plainclothes/unmarked work and the fact that some people won't stop until they see a marked unit.

Exactly...

We have had a number of cases here in Htown where people are unsure of who it is that is actually pulling them over, they just keep driving out of fear that someone is trying to rob them or something worse.

 

[ValkyrieofHouston]

Originally posted by: Frosty3799
Unmarked cars are no longer allowed to pull people over for regular traffic offenses in New York State, because a few years ago some high-up government official (mayor or something?) in Watertown was using his government plates and dash-mount light to pull over what he considered to be attractive females, scare them a little, and get a free frisk in before letting them go...

Sad someone would abuse their power like that.

:roll:

 

[bradruth]

Originally posted by: Eli
Yeah, I know it doesen't apply to unmarked cars.. but I guess it's the whole slippery slope thing. That's why I put that part in quotes, since it doesen't really apply to this situation... but it's the idea of it that irks me.

Right, but let's not confuse undercover police presence in public with, say, security cameras in your home.

Originally posted by: Kelvrick
If a guy is in an unmarked car, and its at night, how can I (or the usual victim, a young female) know if he's in uniform? Gotta slow down and wave the cop up next to you to check out his uni?

Anytime I've worked in an unmarked car I've also been in plainclothes, so even that wouldn't work, but I don't know where you're going with this. Because I said it was a downside? Don't get me wrong, I understand the reasoning, it's just a PITA.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Baked
If you ain't breaking the law, why should you care what the hell cop cars look like?

Peope with this mentality piss me off. That isn't how it works.

How does it work?

Depends on whether you see traffic enforcement as a case of stopping dangerous criminals before they kill someone, or as a sort of light-hearted high-stakes sport played between the speeders and the cops, each trying to outthink the other. The reality is somewhere in between, depending on the situation.

 

[ValkyrieofHouston]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
If they don't stop for an unmarked unit, but do for a marked unit, does that get them in more trouble or no?

What kind of restrictions are there for plainclothes/unmarked?

These questions point to the same answer--you can't charge people with Fleeing unless you're in uniform or in a marked squad car.

Interesting, even if it is lit up like a christmas tree?

Yep.

That's pretty interesting.. I know I'd sure sure as hell pull over if I saw blue and red lights flashing behind me, regardless of where they were on the car.. hmm.

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Baked
If you ain't breaking the law, why should you care what the hell cop cars look like?

Peope with this mentality piss me off. That isn't how it works.

How does it work?

The whole mentality of "If you're not doing anything wrong, you shouldn't care (about your rights)" is wrong. I don't really know how to explain it, perhaps someone else can do a better job.

Agreed...

Everyone should always know what their rights are. Has nothing to do with whether you have done anything wrong or not.

Anyone can violate your rights, regardless if they are law enforcement. Being educated and aware can protect you. Never for one moment think that innocence and blind faith in anything including the legal system is going to keep you from harm.

 

[EKKC]

for new yorkers: avoid black or white american cars or suv's that have weird AV? ???? license plates

them r cops!

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: EKKC
for new yorkers: avoid black or white american cars or suv's that have weird AV? ???? license plates

them r cops!

Considering every vehicle in NYC is a taxi or a dark blue/black Lincoln, that might be tricky

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: LoKe
No hubcaps -> Undercover Cop.

no, that would be a wannabe cop. look closer, you'll see a small hubcap.

also, a lot of people buy them at auction so that's not even guaranteed.

 

[Lalakai]

another factor, depending on local ordinances and guidelines; if the car is unmarked, it might not be legal in stopping you. If in doubt, put on your hazard blinkers, and drive slowly to a high visibility place or even the police station (if close). If you have a cell phone, call 911 and tell them that an unmarked car is attempting to pull you over.

Don't try that method if the car is clearly marked as the officer will not cut you any slack and will definitely put you "through the key-hole". I always cringse seeing some of the "cops" shows where an unmarked car makes a stop, and a plain clothes officer runs up to some vehicle demanding that the occupants get out. Sorry but in that situation, I'm not leaving the vehicle until i have strong proof that they are police.

Making a stop in an unmarked car, is just asking for alot of trouble, and a good lawyer would have a field day with any department that tried to push the issue.

 

[Aharami]

Originally posted by: Baked
If you ain't breaking the law, why should you care what the hell cop cars look like?

anyone who drives with the flow of traffic breaks the law

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Baked
If you ain't breaking the law, why should you care what the hell cop cars look like?

Peope with this mentality piss me off. That isn't how it works.

How does it work?

Speeding laws are ludicrious. Thus you must speed, and know what the cars that will pull you over look like.