University wants to charge for network

[Parkre]

I just found out that my student council from UMR ( Missouri-Rolla, engineering mostly) is proposing a fee for everyone on campus for usage of the network, well not really the network but our site/search engine (which is what they are wanting to charge for). We have this site Seek42.net for searching the network (developed and maintained by our own of course), which was removed most of the last year because of legality issues, and brought back at the end of spring 05 semester. A couple weeks ago some dumb bi*** proposed this and noone seems to care or oppose it. That makes mad, cause I'm in Tulsa right now and can't go voice my opinion and make obscene threats. If this passes, the only good thing is that the Prof "charge" is twice as much haha.

Is this not BS or what?????

 

[MercenaryForHire]

University net sucks anyways. Buy your own DSL/Cable line and avoid the evil sysadmins.

Trust me - I used to be one. We're assholes. :evil:

- M4H

 

[FoBoT]

what is wrong with that?

some public schools now charge kids to ride the bus

 

[Merlyn3D]

Welcome to the rape of the modern college student. It's true that college is only for the rich kids now, even the public ones.

 

[PurdueRy]

we get charged like $60...or so....for use of the network and internet.

However, are internet is amazing IMO. 100 Mb/s network connection.....5 ms ping in CS:S = Teh Win

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

i remember my dorm days, we had it really good actually. I remember maxing out at around 11 MB/S off of DC servers. Could get entire collections of music/videos in a matter of minutes. Never seen that kind of speed in my life.

 

[PurdueRy]

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
i remember my dorm days, we had it really good actually. I remember maxing out at around 11 MB/S off of DC servers. Could get entire collections of music/videos in a matter of minutes. Never seen that kind of speed in my life.

11MB/s????

 

[roguerower]

My network at VA Tech isn't half bad. Downloaded the new AOEIII demo at 1mb/sec. 350 mbs in about 6 minutes is ok by me.

 

[Analog]

Okay, I am a prof, and leech off the same network the students are on. I think students should be charged by bandwidth. I know that certain people here will balk at that - but too bad. If you're a student and your streaming a gazillion things and slowing the network down for everyone else, then STFU. If you are using legit bandwidth to do you school work, then you should be fine. Others who are downloading music, movies, software, porn etc, shouldn't have anything to complain about.

 

[PurdueRy]

Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Okay, I am a prof, and leech off the same network the students are on. I think students should be charged by bandwidth. I know that certain people here will balk at that - but too bad. If you're a student and your streaming a gazillion things and slowing the network down for everyone else, then STFU. If you are using legit bandwidth to do you school work, then you should be fine. Others who are downloading music, movies, software, porn etc, shouldn't have anything to complain about.

we have a 3 GB/day limit....should be enough for most people to get all the porn they could want.

 

[screw3d]

Originally posted by: PurdueRy

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
i remember my dorm days, we had it really good actually. I remember maxing out at around 11 MB/S off of DC servers. Could get entire collections of music/videos in a matter of minutes. Never seen that kind of speed in my life.

11MB/s????

Sounds about right for 100Mbps connection..I have plenty of access to machines in my school with 100Mbps lines

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Okay, I am a prof, and leech off the same network the students are on. I think students should be charged by bandwidth. I know that certain people here will balk at that - but too bad. If you're a student and your streaming a gazillion things and slowing the network down for everyone else, then STFU. If you are using legit bandwidth to do you school work, then you should be fine. Others who are downloading music, movies, software, porn etc, shouldn't have anything to complain about.

All that stuff is on the LAN anyways

- M4H

 

[PingSpike]

Should just roll it into the cost of tuition. Students won't complain about that. They could have avoided any outcry and raped the students at the same time.

 

[PurdueRy]

Originally posted by: screw3d

Originally posted by: PurdueRy

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
i remember my dorm days, we had it really good actually. I remember maxing out at around 11 MB/S off of DC servers. Could get entire collections of music/videos in a matter of minutes. Never seen that kind of speed in my life.

11MB/s????

Sounds about right for 100Mbps connection..I have plenty of access to machines in my school with 100Mbps lines

True, I just wasn't thinking lol

 

[Jzero]

So they aren't charging for the network, they're charging for some search site? Who cares? Don't use the site then.

 

[axelfox]

Originally posted by: PingSpike
Should just roll it into the cost of tuition. Students won't complain about that. They could have avoided any outcry and raped the students at the same time.

Yup. Just charge and extra $60 a semester.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Gee, if you're not paying a separate fee, it's included in your tuition...

BTW Cable/DSL is not FTW. You can't get on i2hub and definitely not most of the campus networks. Furthermore, I had a 10-based router at school once cuz my laptop broke, so I had to bring my desktop. Once both computers were working I noticed my downloads were limited to like 900 KB/sec. Then I realized my router was limiting me =(. Took that out and I was going a full 3 MB/sec. Wewt. You can't get THAT with any Cable/DSL.

Oh and upon typing this up, my wireless (campus connection) died. POS.

 

[acemcmac]

I can get a better connection from other countries to my home cable modem, but if I need to connect 150 feet to another building on the university lan, I may as well be on the moon. I normally expeirenece 15%+ packet loss and ping spikes as high as 60ms, and that's just to my gateway.

My university's network operators suck.

They even put me on the payroll to stop embarrasing them rather than actually fix anything :roll:

 

[Parkre]

Maybe if I complain they will put me on the payroll too.

The site/search engine is only for the network/lan which searches other shared folders on the network. The whole thing that ticks me off is that STUDENT is one proposing this. Not some higherup who already has the experience to include charges without an uprising.

They limited our download off the www to 1 Gig a week last year, which includes webpages, files, download. But unlimited download from others computers.

The site I am referring too was awsome, had the most search files, games being hosted, top ten users who have the most shared (number 5-8 for me, most of the time). Gave stats of just about everything. The local Domino's even had specials posted it (they supported the creator).

I bet the student who propose this lame fee is not paying for her college, but mommy and daddy are.

 

[GimpyOne]

Well considering that UMR-IT already gets an 11 per credit hour fee from every student on campus, charging an additional fee is starting to get annoying.(there are also bandwidth quotas, we are only allowed 150MB/day before they start throttling our connection! of course they claim they doubled our bandwidth over the summer) They've been upping basically all of the cost here at something like 10-15% per year recently I think.

Anyway, I haven't seen any info on this about Seek yet. Where, when and by who was this proposed? I can't find any info on this anywhere here except for one little blurb in the STUCO mintues where it says that IT is planning on replacing Seek. Sort of interesting since they don't run it.

 

[magomago]

Over here things are free and INSANELY fast...I download the AOE demo in a mtter of minutes, but they do this by blocking almost every file sharing program. I used to biatch about it, but after experiencing the "speed" of the net at places like UCSD where they don't block anything, I actually enjoy the speed

 

[Parkre]

Originally posted by: GimpyOne
Well considering that UMR-IT already gets an 11 per credit hour fee from every student on campus, charging an additional fee is starting to get annoying.(there are also bandwidth quotas, we are only allowed 150MB/day before they start throttling our connection! of course they claim they doubled our bandwidth over the summer) They've been upping basically all of the cost here at something like 10-15% per year recently I think.

Anyway, I haven't seen any info on this about Seek yet. Where, when and by who was this proposed? I can't find any info on this anywhere here except for one little blurb in the STUCO mintues where it says that IT is planning on replacing Seek. Sort of interesting since they don't run it.

Since I am on coop in Tulsa, OK. I haven't heard much other than from my gf who is on stuco. She's the one who told me about it. I haven't heard anything more. Wonder what else they plan on chargin us for, using the sidewalk in front of the library to recover the costs of all that remodeling???? BS!!!!

Congrats on finishing and getting the H outta there before rates go up again.

Oh, And I agree that colleges are becoming for the rich kids only, especially with the way rates are going.

 

[ZowieHowie]

When I lived on campus, there was a $15 charge. They gave you a 25 foot ethernet cord, and activated your port (for however long you decided to stay on campus)

 

[wildcat86]

you = owned

 

[Parkre]

Originally posted by: ZowieHowie
When I lived on campus, there was a $15 charge. They gave you a 25 foot ethernet cord, and activated your port (for however long you decided to stay on campus)

you are lucky


Charges
Date Posted Item Description Amount
01/02/2005 Engineering Fee 378.40 USD
01/02/2005 Health Service Fee 75.00
01/02/2005 Student Activity/Fac UG Spring 272.60
01/03/2005 Educ Fee/Undergrad/Resident Sp 3,138.00
01/03/2005 Engineering Fee 141.90
01/03/2005 Information Technology Spring 159.00
01/14/2005 Bookstore Charges 118.88
01/19/2005 Bookstore Charges 153.41
02/24/2005 Finance Charge 2.72
03/24/2005 Finance Charge 2.85

this was spring05

The student Activity fee can be broken down into $25 for the ROLLAMO yearbook (which noone knows about), $60 for Library/Paper, and other ones that I don't remember.

and we don't get a free 25 foot cord