University internet speeds

l0cke

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Finally got the wired internet hooked up at school, and it's way slower than wireless.

Wired - How does this even happen?
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Wireless - What I would expect from wired.
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Anyone know what is going on here? I have heard that they are pretty strict about torrenting, but I wouldn't rule it out. Is it just a bad network setup?

Update: http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=32338431&postcount=17
 
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ch33zw1z

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You'd have to provide more info. It's possible the wired and wireless are two totally different paths through the school and out.
 

isekii

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When I was at rutgers, i'd always use the library lan from the dorm room.
No bandwidth cap FTW.
Wired had 2gb down weekly limit I think which is ridiculous.
 

ch33zw1z

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When I was at rutgers, i'd always use the library lan from the dorm room.
No bandwidth cap FTW.
Wired had 2gb down weekly limit I think which is ridiculous.

2GB per machine, or per network drop?
 

Leros

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When I was at rutgers, i'd always use the library lan from the dorm room.
No bandwidth cap FTW.
Wired had 2gb down weekly limit I think which is ridiculous.

We had a 10GB weekly download limit when I lived in the dorms. Traffic on campus didn't count. I used to tunnel all of my traffic through the lab computers and have unlimited bandwidth :)
 

seepy83

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Finally got the wired internet hooked up at school, and it's way slower than wireless.

Wired - How does this even happen?
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Wireless - What I would expect from wired.
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Anyone know what is going on here? I have heard that they are pretty strict about torrenting, but I wouldn't rule it out. Is it just a bad network setup?

Bad switchport, duplex mismatch, saturated network, etc. Could be many things wrong. Call your University's Network Services department.
 

l0cke

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Later I will go use one of the library computers to see what kind of speeds I get.

The worst part is that the Xbox 360 can't connect to the wireless (WPA2 EPAP) so it has to use that crappy wired all of the time. Sometimes Netflix won't even stream over it. What I really need is a wireless bridge for that.
 

Possessed Freak

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When I was at PSU - University Park in the late 90's, they were running the dorms on 10/100 hubs. But that's not even the worst, when I first visited a satellite campus in 1999 they were still on a 10base2 network!

I would bet the lab machines have faster internet than dorm/wireless student connections. We are in the process of going from our DS3 to a 1 gig inter-campus link. No idea if the internet backbone is getting upgraded or not, but this should REALLY help with the off-site backups.
 

spidey07

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That looks like a duplex mismatch. Make sure your card is set to autonegotiate speed/duplex.

Or a bad cable. Make sure to use store bought cables, never homemade.
 

l0cke

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That looks like a duplex mismatch. Make sure your card is set to autonegotiate speed/duplex.

Or a bad cable. Make sure to use store bought cables, never homemade.

I'm actually running the single ethernet connection through a Netgear GS105 switch so that I can have my Xbox and PC connected at the same time. All cables are from Monoprice.

Wireless internet has also just gone bad, and now looks like this
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EDIT: Plugged directly into the wall, no different
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I'm going to send an email to IT later.
 
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Ken g6

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I lived in two different dorms in college, around the turn of the millennium. The first had nice, high-speed wired access. But the second was on the other side away from campus, and only had dial-up at first! Worse, the dial-up had to go through a PBX, so I was lucky if I could get 28.8Kbps!

Later on, they set up a wireless network (802.11b), which I expected to be much faster. Problem was, whatever idiots set it up had two routers on the same frequency on one floor. And those routers happened to be the two next to me, and were about equidistant from my dorm room! So, half the time, the connection dropped and I got 0Mbps. :( I spent a lot of time in the computer lab. :)

The point is, your situation could be way worse!
 

gorcorps

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My school had phenomenal speeds. Using speed test comparisons it was faster than any consumer plan you could get at the time.
 

l0cke

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Okay, I got a reply from IT

Those speeds for the wired are actually slightly higher than the capped speeds during the day. During the day, 8:30 am - 5:35pm, the upload speeds are capped at .512 MB/s and the download speeds are .384 MB/s. The speeds are raised during the night week days and are raised to about 1 MB/s on the weekends.

Those speeds through the wired are correct. The wireless is not throttled as far as I am aware, and that is just something that our wireless admin has not done yet. If you have any other questions, let us know.

So now I'm going to find a router that will let me bridge a WPA2 PEAP connection to ethernet. :rolleyes:
 

Oyeve

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That looks like a duplex mismatch. Make sure your card is set to autonegotiate speed/duplex.

Or a bad cable. Make sure to use store bought cables, never homemade.

No, hard set for 100 full duplex or to whatever the router is set for. Many times auto will make shit worse.
 

spidey07

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No, hard set for 100 full duplex or to whatever the router is set for. Many times auto will make shit worse.

A duplex mismatch is one of the main reasons for performance problems, second to the cabling. You must have both sides forced speed/duplex, or both sides autonegotiate (auto is best practice, highly recommended). If one side of the link, switchport or NIC, is forced 100/full and the other side is auto that results in a duplex mismatch and extremely poor performance.

switchport - NIC
auto - auto = 100/full negotiated
auto - 100/full = duplex mismatch, switchport doesn't get any autonegotiation and defaults to half duplex
100/full - auto = duplex mismatch, NIC doesn't get any autonegotiation and defaults to half duplex
100/full - 100/full = 100/full

The most common cause of a duplex mismatch is the user setting their card to 100/full thinking they will improve things or "this makes it faster". Networks hardly ever have their switchports hard set on client facing ports.
 

deadlyapp

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University of Colorado Colorado Springs.

I'm hoping I didn't remind the wireless admin that he needs to put up some bandwidth caps.

Damn. Our dorms were uncapped, could typically expect around 10mbps down, realistic consistent download speeds of 1.2Mbps.

I feel bad for you.