University Internet Cap

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Jeff7

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One more reason why I live at home :)
Or otherwise off-campus.
I think I was given something like 2GB/wk during my first year or two on campus.
If you went over, you were stuck in a shared 56k connection, which averaged about 0.1kB/sec. That was pretty much useless for anything more than checking e-mail......slowly.
 

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They're giving you 15 GB/month for a pipe that costs a lot more per GB than a cable modem.
 

CptCrunch

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Is there a wireless network on campus?

I ask because when I went to college (university of kentucky) we had a cable modem in each room that had a max 1Mbps connection, shared between both users. The downloads were right around 90KB-101KBps. I got a wireless card and they didn't have such a cap. I was able to download torrents at 450KBps and upload at the same speed. I would run all of those at night and have no issues with speeds.

They eventually caught on, so I bought a new wireless card and did the same thing (blocked via MAC address)
 

SunSamurai

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They're giving you 15 GB/month for a pipe that costs a lot more per GB than a cable modem.


I guess you glossed over the part where they pay for their share. It doesnt cost THAT much more. (tens of thousands over the userbase? no)
 

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I guess you glossed over the part where they pay for their share. It doesnt cost THAT much more. (tens of thousands over the userbase? no)

Yeah, he pays for his share. His share is apparently 15 GB per month.

It's pretty difficult to use 15 GB per month with regular web browsing, and he already said he has 40 TB of stuff to pirate internally. The university isn't obligated to give him more bandwidth, so what is there to discuss here?

OP also commented on how much his school costs, but he should realize that even if he receives no financial aid, he's not paying the full cost of his education there.
 
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isekii

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If you're on the school network the downloading/uploading on DC++ shouldn't count towards your school cap.
 

xanis

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Just out of curiosity, how do they even keep track of this? Is it done via IP or something?
 

Possessed Freak

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Do your computer labs have the same throttling? I know at Penn State, we give our students limited bandwidth and a cap in the dorms but the labs are a different story. If this is legitimate downloading go to the labs, if not, I have nothing supportive to say.
 

Hyperlite

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No internet cap here that I know of, only 90 bucks a semester too. In fact, reading through our support website, they even encourage the legitimate use of p2p networking as long as we don't upload.

hmm another fellow wolfpack-er. hello thar.

i don't think we do. I usually average about 20-30gb/month, and there are plenty of days where i do over 3gb or so if i'm doing lots of downloading. i know a couple of friends of mine with rapidshare accounts have easily done 20 or 30gb in a day.
 

timosyy

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The first university I went to had a 750MB total (up AND down) cap per 24 hours.

Terrible.
 

Parasitic

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During my first year we had a 5GB/week cap and you'd get a warning if you went over, 2 warnings = a sensibility lecture that we had to complete with a quiz, and 3 times you get your net shut off...or was it 3 and 5?

Anyways the way it was instituted that once you goover 5GB, you're issued a warning, so once you go over you might as well go more over and download until your heart's content.

The next year, of course, they made it so that the day after you hit 5GB your net gets shut off and will not be reinstated until the end of the week when the cap resets or you complete sensibility training.

That's why you register a wireless router as a computer so you can share somebody else's bandwidth :p
 

Pegun

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While I do agree with you that 15gb isn't nearly enough and you certain pay enough for them to wave all caps, this is where NetMeter becomes your friend. It monitors your bandwidth over any given amount of time that you tell. it.
 

Kev

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Jeeeze guys, what's he supposed to do? Pay for media like most regular people? Get real!

Fuck that. Most colleges cost $30,000 and up for 2 semesters of tuition. If they can't provide unlimited free internet, they are pathetic.
 

Bryf50

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Yeah, he pays for his share. His share is apparently 15 GB per month.

It's pretty difficult to use 15 GB per month with regular web browsing, and he already said he has 40 TB of stuff to pirate internally. The university isn't obligated to give him more bandwidth, so what is there to discuss here?

OP also commented on how much his school costs, but he should realize that even if he receives no financial aid, he's not paying the full cost of his education there.

I really don't get what your arguing. Of course the university isn't obligated to do anything even provide a good education. But he is paying to go there and could easily pay to go somewhere else. Like any other business a university has the incentive to keep the customers happy. If he has a problem with the cap he is completely right in complaining to the higher ups in the school. Also, please stop trying to blow off the cost of college like its nothing.
 

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I really don't get what your arguing. Of course the university isn't obligated to do anything even provide a good education. But he is paying to go there and could easily pay to go somewhere else. Like any other business a university has the incentive to keep the customers happy. If he has a problem with the cap he is completely right in complaining to the higher ups in the school. Also, please stop trying to blow off the cost of college like its nothing.

:D He goes to an ivy league school, I don't think the Internet connection is a deciding factor for many of their students. I didn't blow off the cost of college like it's nothing; his University is apparently trying to keep costs under control, because they know what would happen if it was unlimited. They chose a cap that is more than reasonable for normal Internet usage. It's not going to cut it if you watch a couple of hours of Hulu a day, but I'm guessing they also provide cable TV.
 

IEC

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During college we had unlimited download/5GB upload cap per day, which is quite generous.

Now that I pay for a residential connection I use maybe 50GB total d/u a month.
 

SunSamurai

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:D He goes to an ivy league school, I don't think the Internet connection is a deciding factor for many of their students. I didn't blow off the cost of college like it's nothing; his University is apparently trying to keep costs under control, because they know what would happen if it was unlimited. They chose a cap that is more than reasonable for normal Internet usage. It's not going to cut it if you watch a couple of hours of Hulu a day, but I'm guessing they also provide cable TV.


You sound like a tool, seriously. If you think 15GB vs say 200GB changes anything worthwhile you're nuts. Its an arbitrary number that's simply too low for what they are paying. Its not relevant how well you think YOU could manage the limitation or that they could choose a different school or not.

Here is what's relevant; they are lazy. Instead of blocking and configuring a firewall properly to prevent things they dont want, they put a blanket over the whole thing in the form of a cap. I find this ironic from a school. Its like none of these places have a course in basic networking.
 

Insomniator

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How is 15 gigs NOT enough? Maybe for you and a select few others.

When I lived on campus at Rutgers the limit was 2 gigs/1 gig over any seven day period. They doubled it like junior year but I was off campus by then. We also had a rogue DC++ server that didn't count towards bandwidth and the school could never track down. That was great for movies and games etc. but I've never once heard of anyone going over the limit because they "had to for school work."
 

IEC

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How is 15 gigs NOT enough? Maybe for you and a select few others.

When I lived on campus at Rutgers the limit was 2 gigs/1 gig over any seven day period. They doubled it like junior year but I was off campus by then. We also had a rogue DC++ server that didn't count towards bandwidth and the school could never track down. That was great for movies and games etc. but I've never once heard of anyone going over the limit because they "had to for school work."

15GB a month is pathetic. One of my roommates would go on movie binges when not busy. I'm pretty sure he exceeded 25GB in a weekend using Netflix.