Universal Pictures contacted our IT re: someone's P2P download.

[HomeBrewerDude]

Not too surprising I guess, but interesting nonetheless. THis is part of an email in my Inbox this morning. I wasn't the user, and I dont' think I have ever downloaded copyrighted material at work (university). Anyways, thought some of you would find this interesting.
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We received notification from Universal Pictures saying they suspect one of our computers may have been used in an attempt to violate copyright law by illegally sharing movie files. This is a direct violation of the University of Wisconsin's fair use policy. Here is the info I got from campus network security:

Title: Gladiator
Infringement Source: BitTorrent
Initial Infringement Timestamp: 9 Nov 2003 19:32:34 GMT
Recent Infringment Timestamp: 9 Nov 2003 19:32:34 GMT
Infringer Username: None
Infringing Filename: Gladiator - DVDRip XviD.avi
Infringing Filesize: 734402560
Infringers IP Address: XXX.XXX.XX.XX
Infringers DNS Name: XXX-XXX-XX-XX.XXXXXXX.XXXX.XXX Infringing URL: XXX.XXX.XX.XX:XXXX/Gladiator - DVDRip XviD.avi

We know exactly which computer downloaded this material. We will be working with that user to make sure that the file is deleted. We must then report our actions to campus security. It is only a matter of time before the record industry folks are going to have us start knocking on the doors of anyone who is running point to point sharing software on his or her machine. The know who you are and what copyrighted material you have on your machine. Noncompliance with federal law could cost you and your project quite a lot of money.

Please, if you have point to point software installed on your machine (Kazza, Morpheus, etc.), it needs to be uninstalled unless it is used solely for research purposes. If you are downloading music or video files that are not work related, please do that from a from a non-campus internet connection.

 

[LordThing]

If you are downloading music or video files that are not work related, please do that from a from a non-campus internet connection

I kinda like that last line. Hey, if you are going to do it, do it somewhere else so we don't get hassled.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: LordThing

If you are downloading music or video files that are not work related, please do that from a from a non-campus internet connection

I kinda like that last line. Hey, if you are going to do it, do it somewhere else so we don't get hassled.

Yep

 

[T2T III]

Please, if you have point to point software installed on your machine (Kazza, Morpheus, etc.), it needs to be uninstalled unless it is used solely for research purposes.

Umm .... yeah, I had it installed because of "research" purposes -- that's it. LoL

 

[Spooner]

HEhe.... that's nice

 

[HomeBrewerDude]

Originally posted by: LordThing

If you are downloading music or video files that are not work related, please do that from a from a non-campus internet connection

I kinda like that last line. Hey, if you are going to do it, do it somewhere else so we don't get hassled.

That is typically the university response on most stuff. Live and let live, make your own decisions, just don't misuse campus equipment. However, over time, UW has in fact gotten tougher on their policy concerning file sharing. There has also been a similar shift in how professors can and can not distribute published artlicles and chapters.

 

[Eug]

A friend's workplace was contacted by a movie company too, for the same reason. It seems the person in question may be fired.

 

[Danman]

:Q How did they catch it under BT? I don't understand that, they are getting dirty.

 

[Danman]

Wait a minute, was this guy SHARING it or downloading it?

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: cashman
:Q How did they catch it under BT? I don't understand that, they are getting dirty.

Downloading from an 'entrapment' server?

 

[LordThing]

Originally posted by: cashman
:Q How did they catch it under BT? I don't understand that, they are getting dirty.

Well, alot of bit torrent clients will display the IP of the user you are getting peices from. Even give you a full readout of how much of the file they have. I guess they just jumped on a few torrents of their movies and watched to see what IPs showed up or were main seeders

 

[Danman]

Originally posted by: yamahaXS

Originally posted by: LordThing

If you are downloading music or video files that are not work related, please do that from a from a non-campus internet connection

I kinda like that last line. Hey, if you are going to do it, do it somewhere else so we don't get hassled.

That is typically the university response on most stuff. Live and let live, make your own decisions, just don't misuse campus equipment. However, over time, UW has in fact gotten tougher on their policy concerning file sharing. There has also been a similar shift in how professors can and can not distribute published artlicles and chapters.

Yea, here at campus they have really cut down on that stuff.

 

[nebula]

What people need to realize is that you don't get busted for downloading but rather for sharing, at least currently. With Kazaa you can disable sharing, of course Kazaa sucks. With any "real" P2P app you share part files so as you d/l you also share.

Since when does P2P mean point to point? I always thought it was peer to peer. Ah, those crazy Wisconsin people.

 

[Danman]

Originally posted by: LordThing

Originally posted by: cashman
:Q How did they catch it under BT? I don't understand that, they are getting dirty.

Well, alot of bit torrent clients will display the IP of the user you are getting peices from. Even give you a full readout of how much of the file they have. I guess they just jumped on a few torrents of their movies and watched to see what IPs showed up or were main seeders

So this guy was sharing it on the school network I'm guessing. What a douche, that's a like a huge no-no.

 

[LordThing]

Originally posted by: cashman

Originally posted by: LordThing

Originally posted by: cashman
:Q How did they catch it under BT? I don't understand that, they are getting dirty.

Well, alot of bit torrent clients will display the IP of the user you are getting peices from. Even give you a full readout of how much of the file they have. I guess they just jumped on a few torrents of their movies and watched to see what IPs showed up or were main seeders

So this guy was sharing it on the school network I'm guessing. What a douche, that's a like a huge no-no.

Kinda an issue with bittorrent is that you are sharing as you download. So, technically, they could come after you whether or not you have the full file because as soon as you download 1 peice, you are serving it to the others in the torrent. Who knows if this guy was a long time seeder or just got caught downloading the file. I am guessing they are going after the seeder, but still, scary to know that they are watching our IPs on downloads in BT.

 

[nebula]

All the "baddies" have to do is run whatever client they want, BT, eMule, etc., start d/l a file from you and do a quick DOS command and it will show all the IP address currently connected to them.

Maybe on BT, but I got a slap on eMule, and I was in no way a seeder.

 

[alkemyst]

Anything that goes through your machine goes through the networks. Whether it's a service, process, piece of fluff named phil....if someone knows what to look for they can pinpoint you.

I think the next step of these will be encrypted p2p that becomes like old 'warez bbs' systems where you had to be known to get access.

What I think is the saddest thing is the thousands of script kiddiez that just download and stockpile and never listen or watch the stuff.

I have some unusual views on the process, like I feel if I paid to see the movie, yet missed a part or didn't understand some of it, I should be able to view for free. However I shouldn't be able to stockpile and burn it to media so I can keep watching it over and over.

I feel if I have bought the DVD or VHS version I should be able to copy and redistribute to my other players, however not to my friends.

I think the thing that got the RIAA and the companies in such an uproar is not the distribution, but those making digital to digital copies and reselling them. Now they are p!ssed. I went to a swap shop in central florida and it was obvious the counterfeit disney movies...if the guy was charging full list I would have called it in, but he was charging like $5 to $10 and even had reprinted covers so he was hustling for his buck...if he had a bunch of paper sleeves with Sharpie labeling at $15-25 a pop, I'd have dialed Disnet up on my cell right there.

 

[nebula]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: cashman
:Q How did they catch it under BT? I don't understand that, they are getting dirty.

Downloading from an 'entrapment' server?

I don't think that would last long. With all the savvy ppl out there, they'd figure out quick that it was a bad server.

 

[rh71]

Gotta lay off the movies these days... I only use BT for missed TV episodes... wondering when they'll start cracking down on those too... something about syndication rights...

 

[Danman]

Originally posted by: nebula

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: cashman
:Q How did they catch it under BT? I don't understand that, they are getting dirty.

Downloading from an 'entrapment' server?

I don't think that would last long. With all the savvy ppl out there, they'd figure out quick that it was a bad server.

Yea, that's what I don't understand. This really scares me. :Q

 

[SoylentGreen]

Originally posted by: cashman
:Q How did they catch it under BT? I don't understand that, they are getting dirty.

You ever do a netstat while on BT?

I don't use BT.

 

[FrOsTxxbYtE]

i use it to get PoRn

 

[Danman]

Originally posted by: Kiyup

Originally posted by: cashman
:Q How did they catch it under BT? I don't understand that, they are getting dirty.

You ever do a netstat while on BT?

I don't use BT.

I'll have to try this........never did it before.