This makes no sense at all.
You're saying that one field deserves at least $80 an hour but they rarely make more than $30.
You're saying that another field makes $60 but deserves less.
How messed up is that logic? The fact that someone in your field rarely makes more than $30 an hour tells you that they're not worth more than $30 an hour right now. If you were, they'd be making more than that.
If you rarely make more than $30 an hour, WTF are you getting the figure that you "should" be making $80 an hour?
shilala
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I went to school for five years, have over 20 years experience, roughly 15 being in supervision, and have roughly 800 hours of classes in extended training that was spent on my weekends to better my skills/education.
If I had none of that, I would be paid "the normal trend" scale of around $12.00 and hour with no benefits if I really got lucky and busted my ass working for some local non union shop.
So you know, "the normal trend" in my industry is dictated through Federal Government standards. It's called "The Prevailing Wage". My pay rate happens to be "the normal trend" as defined by State and Federal law.
How is the "normal trend" computed for your line of work?
SarcasticDwarf
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That figure is just as arbitrary as your wage figure. The point is, wages are not directly linked to what a person "deserves" to make.
shilala
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I think I understand what you're saying. You deserve more, but other people don't.
Is that pretty accurate?
That sounded mean, didn't it?
I guess my point is that of course you feel you deserve more. My bet is that you're also worth more. But if you want to grasp that line of thinking or get people on board with you, you should probably hold the same moral for others.
Because when you don't, you sound like one of those guys who bitches all week cause he deserves a raise, but says that Barry Bonds isn't worth 7 million a year.
Makes no sense whatsoever.
NL5
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If you want to complain about unions start with the players union in all major US sports. Does anyone know how much Johhny Unitas made? Joe Namath? Compare them to Tom Brady (who isn't nearly the level of those two, and I am a Pats fan). Now compare what a plumber made in the 60's compared to now.
SarcasticDwarf
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You are making the assumption that because a person makes x dollars now, they deserve that, yet people making x-1 do not deserve to make x.
theknight571
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Unions aside.
I'm going to guess that Tom Brady never saw the letter.
I can't imagine Tom walking down to the mail box flipping though his mail everyday.
Wouldn't he have "people"? I would think he gets a lot of mail everyday, and very little of it does he see personally.
I could be wrong...but that's my guess.
I'm going to guess that Tom Brady never saw the letter.
I can't imagine Tom walking down to the mail box flipping though his mail everyday.
Wouldn't he have "people"? I would think he gets a lot of mail everyday, and very little of it does he see personally.
I could be wrong...but that's my guess.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: smack Down
And good god, $60 is waaaaay more than they deserve for the work they do.</end quote></div>
Really how much you think they ought to make?
</end quote></div>
don't know, but at 60 dollars an hour I would do the work my self.</end quote></div>
In here lies the problem, the average person thinks that he could plumb a 10 million $$ property.
I am sure you are a very bright person, however you would never be able to plumb a 100K house.
And good god, $60 is waaaaay more than they deserve for the work they do.</end quote></div>
Really how much you think they ought to make?
</end quote></div>
don't know, but at 60 dollars an hour I would do the work my self.</end quote></div>
In here lies the problem, the average person thinks that he could plumb a 10 million $$ property.
I am sure you are a very bright person, however you would never be able to plumb a 100K house.
61.75 an hour for plumbing? Are they joking? I realize it's a skilled job and not just labor, but 61.75 is crazy.
Linflas
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Given that most public schools have totally ditched vocational education in favor of trying to steer every single student towards college I expect you will see the trades being paid like this in increasing numbers as the pool of skilled tradesmen become smaller.
shilala
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Darty already pointed out that the stated rate is erroneous. The prevailing wage in Boston is right around $36.00. That's what a plumber would make.
They would also have an extended benefit package that likely tacks on $10-$12 and hour in cost for the contractor. That package includes Health and Welfare (hospitalization, it runs around $2600 a quarter), a couple pensions, and whatever other benefits the local has collectively bargained for.
Add the rest of the contractor's burden and his markup of 3 to 6% and it could cost the customer somewhere around $61.75 to put a plumber on site. That's a pretty good stretch though.
Not sure where the $80 an hour quote came from. But I'm guessing it came directly outta someone's ass.
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