Union leader: “We have Adolf Christie ... trying to make New Jersey Nazi Germany."

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brencat

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Assuming of course that you have the money to pay for expensive procedures.

Corruption, that was a giggle. It's not something associated with a political system, seeing how the US is more corrupt than Sweden and Sweden is kinda socialist. Same goes for Canada, at least when compared to the US.

You didn't say if you would be willing to forgo some of your safety nets in exchange for smaller govt, less regulation, lower taxes, and greater potential to get rich?

Don't you resent paying VAT taxes? Paying more for most everything vs what it costs us in the States? Resent that most of you will be middle class at best? See that's the thing... you have lots of safety nets over there, but everyone is mostly content at being 'average'. Americans by and large are always striving for more and want to differentiate ourselves from each other -- we are not content to simply fit into society. The greater good comes from each man working as hard as he can with the dream of success.

This is also why class warfare by the Left in this country has mostly backfired. We reject higher taxes because individually we dream of being successful and wealthy one day (since it is more possible here in the U.S. than Europe) and don't want to pay those rates if we eventually get there. That and the fact that the govt has proven itself to be a poor steward of our money in both Dem and Repub hands.
 

theeedude

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If it's valid for some people to compare liberals to commies, it's also valid for others to compare conservatives to nazis.
 

Craig234

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Frankly I'm sick and tired of the Hitler comparisons. The only Hitler was Hitler.

The funny thing is, a lot of the things called 'Hitler comparisons' aren't.

A Hitler comparison might be 'you know who was like Hitler? Mao.'

The point there is to say that the people there have traits in common so they're similar.

But if someone says 'you know who else was anti-Unions? Hitler', or 'you know what other leader thought he was a better general than his generals and made big mistakes? Hitler', or 'you know who else thought fascism was a good idea? Hitler', or 'you know who else though 'his people' deserved to rule the word? Hitler' and so on, it can be making a point about the issue that includes something about Hitler being in favor of it, without saying the other person who supports that is being compared to Hitler.

If I say 'you know who else was a vegetarian? Hitler', I'm not necessarily saying 'you, vegetarian, are being compared to Hitler. Where are your concentration camps?'

The quote I posted of Senator Brown mentioning other bad leaders including Hitler who were against unions is a good example where he did not mean to say the people in Wisconsin opposed to union rights are generally like Hitler - he said so specifically and repeated the point that he was not comparing them, but decided it was too inflammatory to make the point.

The posters at Tea Party event with Obama and a Hitler mustache? They're comparing Obama to Hitler. Funny, haven't seen many righties posting strong opposition to those.

I largely agree with you that Hitler is generally better avoided as a reference, but it's not always comparing people to him.
 

werepossum

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Frankly I'm sick and tired of the Hitler comparisons. The only Hitler was Hitler.
This is true. The National Socialist German Workers Party did far too many horrible and non-socialist things to be properly considered even truly socialist, and Hitler did so many horrible things that anyone to whom he can accurately be compared (Stalin and Pol Pot come to mind) needs no such comparison.
 

Craig234

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This is true. The National Socialist German Workers Party did far too many horrible and non-socialist things to be properly considered even truly socialist

That's awfully generous of you to admit he wasn't 'truly socialist', considering that one of the groups he first targeted to be slaughtered were socialists, and he was a fascist.

In response, I can only offer you the same courtesy of saying a dictator with 'democratic' in his party's name who slaughters any democracy advocates is not 'truly democratic'.

You're welcome.