Union leader: “We have Adolf Christie ... trying to make New Jersey Nazi Germany."

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jackschmittusa

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Maybe this guy watched Glenn Beck too much?

Yeah, I disagree with this guy using the Nazi and Hitler crap, but I find it funny that people on the Right are so upset when he is using what I have come to know as a common Right-wing tactic. That tactic being to evoke an emotional response from the intended audience by demonizing their adversaries.

I prefer reason and logic, accurate facts and figures. Hot blood and hate is for mental midgets.
 

Red Dawn

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Actually, anyone who draws conclusions based on a political affiliation is merely highlighting their own ignorance and stupidity.

Sounds good but it's hard not too when their leaders are continually spouting out bellicose bullshit while wrapping themselves around the flag as if it's some sort of camofluage from their bullshit.
 

Macamus Prime

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Just like the Nazi's vilified the Jews, the capitalist overlords are trying to viliy the unions.

Why do you people hate the American worker so much?
 

Atreus21

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Actually, anyone who draws conclusions based on a political affiliation is merely highlighting their own ignorance and stupidity.

I don't think that's true.

It's in our nature to hold people up against the categorical generalities that they are part of. Saying that this guy's a democrat, so he probably supports unions, isn't ignorant. It's assuming that he supports what most democrats support.

We can be forgiven for assuming wrongly. But until we know the person on an individual basis, there's no reason to assume a democrat voter doesn't think how most democrats think.

It seems fallacious to me to selectively ignore relevant criteria when making a judgment of someone. It was like what the media said after the Fort Hood shooting: Don't jump to conclusions. What they meant was: Don't jump to the obvious conclusion.
 

brencat

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Just like the Nazi's vilified the Jews, the capitalist overlords are trying to viliy the unions.

Why do you people hate the American worker so much?

Don't hate the American worker at all. What many of us hate is the 'entitlement' mentality that so pervades Europe and seems to be making further inroads in this country as the years go by.

You aren't entitled to sh*t in this country. We will take care of the inferm but the rest of you lazy asses can get yourself out of bed, and figure out how to feed your families. Don't want to work? Fine, then you don't eat.

Harsh, but that's life. Now our capitalist system is far from perfect, because human beings aren't perfect. But it is the most benevolent system on Earth. Far better than socialism which simply spreads misery to all.

Many of you have seen me propose reasonable changes to cap gains taxation and other suggestions that would reduce concentration of wealth among the top 0.1% in our country, so don't suddenly think I've abandoned my center-right position for far-right lunacy. I just despise people who believe they are entitled to a living because I wasn't given squat growing up and I worked hard for everything I have today.
 

Macamus Prime

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Don't hate the American worker at all. What many of us hate is the 'entitlement' mentality that so pervades Europe and seems to be making further inroads in this country as the years go by.

You aren't entitled to sh*t in this country. We will take care of the inferm but the rest of you lazy asses can get yourself out of bed, and figure out how to feed your families. Don't want to work? Fine, then you don't eat.

Harsh, but that's life. Now our capitalist system is far from perfect, because human beings aren't perfect. But it is the most benevolent system on Earth. Far better than socialism which simply spreads misery to all.

Many of you have seen me propose reasonable changes to cap gains taxation and other suggestions that would reduce concentration of wealth among the top 0.1% in our country, so don't suddenly think I've abandoned my center-right position for far-right lunacy. I just despise people who believe they are entitled to a living because I wasn't given squat growing up and I worked hard for everything I have today.

The model of American capital venturist is to capture the maximum amount of profits. Do you feel there is a limit or line that should not be crossed, in order to capture said maximum amount of profits?
 

JockoJohnson

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Just like the Nazi's vilified the Jews, the capitalist overlords are trying to viliy the unions.

Why do you people hate the American worker so much?

American worker != union. This sounds just like the BS that gets spewed when people need money for public education---"It's for the kids, you don't hate kids, do you?" Give it the fuck up.

Public union is also not equal to private sector unions. If a company uses union labor, terrific, I am all for it. But the public sector unions hold the taxpayer hostage. Gov't just can't go bankrupt. We have to keep services and pay people.

Because a bunch of asshats mismanage taxpayer funds, the taxpayer has to pay more for their mistakes. There is no accountability in government. That is not the fault of the public unions but when the managers screw up, there is nothing that can be done but raise taxes because the unions rarely budge. In private sector, heads roll, salaries get decreased for a company to stay alive.

There should be no public sector unions. Most people are probably fine with private sector unions, myself included. But public sector unions need to go away.
 

Genx87

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Every time the left in this country compares the right to Nazi Germany. Part of that brutal regimes legacy dies.
 

CPA

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Sounds good but it's hard not too when their leaders are continually spouting out bellicose bullshit while wrapping themselves around the flag as if it's some sort of camofluage from their bullshit.


You are deaf if you don't hear the same crap spewed by libs.
 

CPA

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Ahhh, facts. Can't stand them. I will now cover my eyes and pretend I didn't read that. It's much better to believe that public sector employees get paid less than private sector--especially when it comes to teachers.

Hey, whatever they can use, whether it's true or not, to defend their union brethren.
 

PingviN

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Harsh, but that's life. Now our capitalist system is far from perfect, because human beings aren't perfect. But it is the most benevolent system on Earth. Far better than socialism which simply spreads misery to all.

Ah yes, that's why all of us Europeans are so miserable. Damn you, socialism, for making sure less fortunate are guaranteed an acceptable standard of living. Damn you! It's a difference in morale; Europeans are willing to pay high taxes because we care for our society while Americans don't because first and foremost they treasure themselves. Cool thing about socialism (or social liberalism to be more exact) is that it actually works, unless of course you're a bunch of extremely egotistical bastards. Have fun running face-first into the brick wall.

Health care for all in Europe: Yes

Health care for all in the States: Shut up, commie, before we tie you to a stick, shove this hammer and sickle up your rear-end and set you on fire
 

brencat

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The model of American capital venturist is to capture the maximum amount of profits. Do you feel there is a limit or line that should not be crossed, in order to capture said maximum amount of profits?

Can't really answer that question as each person must answer to their own conscience about 'how much is enough'. For some, it is simply a game and a $40 mil annual comp is just a yardstick for measuring accomplishment relative to their peers. For those opposed to this kind of pay package, additional marginal tax brackets at the truly high end like I've discussed many times (i.e. $750k+ ramping up, etc) may be appropriate, as well as taxing capital gains at 25-28% to ensure the investor class pays a reasonable effective rate of tax.

On the other hand, we want to encourage people to start businesses and be entrepreneurial in this country. You need to realize a person doesn't start a business saying... 'I hope to make $5 million someday'. They start a business with the drive and hope of making $250 million someday. We want to encourage that kind of hope and thinking (even if it is unrealistic for most) because it is still possible in this country no matter the odds.
 

drebo

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Ahhh, facts. Can't stand them. I will now cover my eyes and pretend I didn't read that. It's much better to believe that public sector employees get paid less than private sector--especially when it comes to teachers.

Well, to sate your sensibilities, private school primary education teachers almost always make a lot less than public school primary education teachers:

http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=55
In 2007–08, the average annual base salary of regular full-time public school teachers ($49,600) was higher than the average annual base salary of regular full-time private school teachers ($36,300).
 

JockoJohnson

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Well, to sate your sensibilities, private school primary education teachers almost always make a lot less than public school primary education teachers:

http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=55

Of course they do. I thought it was common knowledge that the private sector teachers make less than public sector teachers. But if one were to listen to the public sector union babble, they would think that all public union employees are destitute because of the shitty pay they receive.
 

lupi

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More OP Fail. Some random nobody ever heard of says insane BS and that becomes "the Left". Where does the OP stand when the MSM Fox News calls the Left/Democrats Socialists/Communists/(and worse)?

Some of them around here will call themselves that when asked, so guess it would be ok.
 

KGB

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brencat

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It's a difference in mentality; Europeans are willing to pay high taxes because we don't know any better and are too chickenshit to forgo cradle to grave safety nets in exchange for massive upside if we are more successful on our own.

Fixed that for you.

I am married to a Spaniard by the way and I understand the European mentality completely. My wife's parent's now live in the U.S. and are also U.S. citizens now because they couldn't stand the socialist mentality, corruption, and inferior health care for my chronically ill mother-in-law.
 

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CPA

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And it makes the article/video invalid? :rolleyes:
 

her209

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I just don't understand why these people feel they should have similar pay to private industry and insane retirement packages as well. Public employees do realize they don't generate any wealth right? Government is a leech on the economy. A required one, but the people in government need to understand they can't be a BURDEN to the economy else why not just have a state ran economy like NK or China?
So the economy would be more productive with no roads, bridges, highways, etc.?
 

PingviN

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Fixed that for you.

I am married to a Spaniard by the way and I understand the European mentality completely. My wife's parent's now live in the U.S. and are also U.S. citizens now because they couldn't stand the socialist mentality, corruption, and inferior health care for my chronically ill mother-in-law.

Assuming of course that you have the money to pay for expensive procedures.

Corruption, that was a giggle. It's not something associated with a political system, seeing how the US is more corrupt than Sweden and Sweden is kinda socialist. Same goes for Canada, at least when compared to the US.