Unforgiven: Shitiest BD/HD ever

CrystalBay

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Then picture Quality is barely passable ..Great movie and shitty reproduction.....
 

Slick5150

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Haven't seen that one, but the House of Flying Daggers is by far the worst HD disc I've seen.
 

Shawn

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Odd. High-def digest gives the PQ 4 out of 5 stars.

edit: could be because it is one of their first HD DVD reviews.
 

biggestmuff

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Originally posted by: Slick5150
Haven't seen that one, but the House of Flying Daggers is by far the worst HD disc I've seen.

That's too bad. It was never a great DVD either. It was nicknamed The House of Flying Artifacts. I guess it still is.
 

zinfamous

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I didn't have a problem with Unforgiven BD. not perfect, but way better than the VHS copy I replaced :D

House of Flying Daggers sucks? Odd, Curse of the Golden Flower is sitll the best BD I've seen by far...
 

Slick5150

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Originally posted by: biggestmuff
Originally posted by: Slick5150
Haven't seen that one, but the House of Flying Daggers is by far the worst HD disc I've seen.

That's too bad. It was never a great DVD either. It was nicknamed The House of Flying Artifacts. I guess it still is.

Doing a 1080p transfer w/ MPEG-2 encoding isn't going to mesh all that well onto a 25gb disc. Especially on a movie with the rich color palette of House of Flying Daggers.

The strange thing is, half of the movie looks pretty good, but the other half looks pretty much on par with the bad DVD transfer. Its just wildly inconsistent. I'd hope they revisit that one at some point and do a proper transfer of it.
 

Yreka

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Is this a BD ? If so, wanna sell it for cheap ? :)

I lost my DVD long ago + have been wanting to watch it again.

 

cubby1223

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The problem with House of Flying Daggers is it went from the original film to a digital copy, back to film, back to a digital copy from the 2nd film transfer, and this is apparently the only thing remaining for a master to work off of. So there's no possibility of a better transfer.

But there have been some other comparisons done between dvd and HD copies, and some HD movies appear to be dvd quality upscaled to HD, such as Traffic and The Big Lebowski come to mind. The Fifth Element was horrible, but redone with a free replacement program (which I'm sure has now expired), the new version is spectacular.

I've noticed that Director's Cuts and Extended Editions of older movies, the inserted scenes are of such varying picture quality to the rest. Payback: Straight Up and Stargate are the two I own that come to mind, most of the scenes are great, but the inserted scenes are very fuzzy and grainy.
 

skriefal

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I've never seen the Unforgiven BD, but the HD-DVD is great. Nice, natural, good resolution.
 

Oyeve

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I have Unforgiven on Laserdisc and it looks great. :) The DVD is not as sharp as the LD beleive it or not. I miss LD.:(
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: Oyeve
I have Unforgiven on Laserdisc and it looks great. :) The DVD is not as sharp as the LD beleive it or not. I miss LD.:(


I need to figure out what happend to the family's LD player...The only worthwhile digital transfer of Star Wars is still LD exclusive...
:)
 

skriefal

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The 2-disc DVD releases of Star Wars, Empire, And Return of the Jedi from 1-2 years ago include a "bonus" disc with the non-futzed with versions of each movie. And those bonus discs were sourced from the same D1 SD transfers that were used for the laserdiscs -- so they're effectively DVD releases of the laserdiscs, complete with 2-channel audio and non-anamorphic video.
 

Auric

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Originally posted by: skriefal
I've never seen the Unforgiven BD, but the HD-DVD is great. Nice, natural, good resolution.

Usually, the same encode is used for the same market, regardless of the format. Do you know if the HD DVD is different from the BD? Are there other regional versions with different encodes? Can't be arsed to goggle. :p
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: zinfamous
I've been told the audio is a mono crap source.

nope. has the extra fancy, high-end audio that it was filmed in: Dolby Digital 2.0 Surround :p
 

skriefal

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Correct -- it's the same ProLogic-encoded stereo track that was used on the laserdiscs.
 

zinfamous

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Odd. I seem to remember the LD having a big fat THX stamped on the package.

of course...so did several VHS released around that time :D

I bet Lucas is holding out for his own proprietary HD format. ...or waiting to release the trilogy on BD/HDDVD: Greedo shoots Jaba, Chewie comes out of the closet, Luke is actually Yoda's immaculately-conceived larval spawn, and the only available soundtrack is dubbed-over from Flash Gordon.

Honestly, that would be the first DVD release of Star Wars I pay for.
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: zinfamous
Odd. I seem to remember the LD having a big fat THX stamped on the package.

of course...so did several VHS released around that time :D

I bet Lucas is holding out for his own proprietary HD format. ...or waiting to release the trilogy on BD/HDDVD: Greedo shoots Jaba, Chewie comes out of the closet, Luke is actually Yoda's immaculately-conceived larval spawn, and the only available soundtrack is dubbed-over from Flash Gordon.

Honestly, that would be the first DVD release of Star Wars I pay for.

Lucas was notorious for waiting a long time to release on DVD, and Episode 1 was his first DVD release, and didn't release the original trilogy on the format until Episode 3 came out on DVD iirc.
So, it may be until a singular HD format is around and proves itself stable and a strong format. That alone will be awhile. How long Lucas delays releases after that, who knows.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Odd. I seem to remember the LD having a big fat THX stamped on the package.

of course...so did several VHS released around that time :D

I bet Lucas is holding out for his own proprietary HD format. ...or waiting to release the trilogy on BD/HDDVD: Greedo shoots Jaba, Chewie comes out of the closet, Luke is actually Yoda's immaculately-conceived larval spawn, and the only available soundtrack is dubbed-over from Flash Gordon.

Honestly, that would be the first DVD release of Star Wars I pay for.

Lucas was notorious for waiting a long time to release on DVD, and Episode 1 was his first DVD release, and didn't release the original trilogy on the format until Episode 3 came out on DVD iirc.
So, it may be until a singular HD format is around and proves itself stable and a strong format. That alone will be awhile. How long Lucas delays releases after that, who knows.


well, my only point is that Lucas is a lunatic. ...and I applaud him for that. Piss off the fans! ..what do I care?