Unemployment Poll

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: Saga

Originally posted by: TheVrolok
lol. I'm sorry that I'm spending a few months working/saving money at home after college before med school starts. I'd wager the patients I've taken care of, and research I've done, would be arguments for constructive input during this time. But hey, being ignorant is cool, too.

You could be Einstein for all I care, you still aren't contributing to what this country needs to stay afloat, part of which is a healthy real estate market. Sorry if that hurts the ego your medical profession gives you.

damn. unemployment hurts. worse than I thought.

You'd think the anal sex would help; but has certainly had the opposite effect with this guy....

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: zinfamous
Biotech/Research not in poll


left my job in Chicago back in June, so did GF. moved to Berkeley in August. She remains unemployed (Math, Education (Masters), Statistics-currently studying for and taking actuarial exams). I was only hired at the end of November (Academic; Genetics research lab). also applied for Grad school.

.....It fucking sucks out here. we've been living off of savings for the most part. Renting, decent living expenses; though currently making less than I was in Chicago. actually had to bargain to get that "somewhat less than" salary. 🙁

Wow, that's very close to my story...Biotech/Research, doing research on gene repair, applying to grad school.

...And my GF was laid off a few months ago and is still looking for work.

eh, at least she can get unemployment, no? we're the idiots that quit and moved to one of the worst markets... 😀

I've done evo, medical, core, and now evo again. was published in medical (cardiac development stuff), so all of that helps. I'm just sick of this industry and want to get into Public Health. I'm afraid I have too much tech experience 🙁

 

[yh125d]

18
Renting apartment (well living at home *right* now, but soon moving out
Working as a pipeline drafter
Luckily my employer hasn't had to cut back at all, but we're a pretty small company (~25 employees). We handle nearly all the drafting being done on our specific projects between Shreveport and Amarillo (probably 700 NG compressor sites)

 

[2Dead]

Only been unemployed for 2 weeks after grad school. I've been employed for 5 years now as of tomorrow.

 

[imported_Lothar]

ATOT has an unemployment range of 12.12%, well above the national average of 7.2%

Wow.

 

[Arkitech]

sorry guys, I was'nt able to update the poll. my job is really squeezing the life out of my department before the last day rolls around. I'm actually kinda glad I'm getting to move on, apparently the new company who are taking over our current job roles believes they can do the work of 150 people with roughly about 50. my department's primary function was production support for billing, so I'm sure when revenue drops because of this stupid move to reduce the staff heads will roll.

in the meantime I'm going to start hitting the books and working on a few certifications, hopefully by March I should be able to find myself another position.

 

[Arkitech]

Originally posted by: Saga

Originally posted by: Imp

You should tell that to my sibling who's working, been out of college over 5 years and still living at home. Oh, and many of my friends who are approaching 30 and doing the same😉.

No matter your physical age, if you are still living with your parents I don't consider you a constructive member of society.

If I EVER had to resort to the same situation for whatever reason, I would judge myself the same way and try my hardest to fix whatever had landed me there in the first place.

Of course taking care of a decrepit/injured parent is another story.

😕

are you serious?

 

[BassBomb]

I work 4 month work terms (I think you call it internships in USA) between my school terms.

I am on one of them right now working at MAN Diesel

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: Saga

Originally posted by: Imp

You should tell that to my sibling who's working, been out of college over 5 years and still living at home. Oh, and many of my friends who are approaching 30 and doing the same😉.

No matter your physical age, if you are still living with your parents I don't consider you a constructive member of society.

If I EVER had to resort to the same situation for whatever reason, I would judge myself the same way and try my hardest to fix whatever had landed me there in the first place.

Of course taking care of a decrepit/injured parent is another story.

It's a very Asian thing. Unmarried kids usually don't leave their home. But they do contribute to the bills.

 

[Saga]

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: Saga

Originally posted by: Imp

You should tell that to my sibling who's working, been out of college over 5 years and still living at home. Oh, and many of my friends who are approaching 30 and doing the same😉.

No matter your physical age, if you are still living with your parents I don't consider you a constructive member of society.

If I EVER had to resort to the same situation for whatever reason, I would judge myself the same way and try my hardest to fix whatever had landed me there in the first place.

Of course taking care of a decrepit/injured parent is another story.

It's a very Asian thing. Unmarried kids usually don't leave their home. But they do contribute to the bills.

I can appreciate a culture clash there as much as anyone; this makes a whole lot more sense than all the arguments before it that simply attempted to take an opinion and bash me for it.

Newsflash, if you can have one, so can I. <3

 

[cheezy321]

Originally posted by: TheVrolok

Originally posted by: Saga

Originally posted by: TheVrolok
lol. I'm sorry that I'm spending a few months working/saving money at home after college before med school starts. I'd wager the patients I've taken care of, and research I've done, would be arguments for constructive input during this time. But hey, being ignorant is cool, too.

You could be Einstein for all I care, you still aren't contributing to what this country needs to stay afloat, part of which is a healthy real estate market. Sorry if that hurts the ego your medical profession gives you.

Are you honestly saying that because I don't own property I'm not contributing to the economy? Are you that obtuse? If it makes you feel better, I just purchased a condo in Florida for vacation property/investment purposes. Does that make me worthy? Nice dig at medical professionals, too; I'm not quite sure where the talk of ego comes from? Unless of course it's an extension of your landowner superiority complex? I guess we should just go back to only letting property owners vote. I suppose I could go into all the home owners who are in way over their heads because they overspent on their homes, but hey, they're still fighting the good fight to save the economy, right?

So you own a vacation condo, and you live at home with your parents? 😕

- You're doing it wrong.

 

[Saga]

Originally posted by: cheezy321

So you own a vacation condo, and you live at home with your parents? 😕

- You're doing it wrong.

Haha. This ^

 

[Arkitech]

Originally posted by: Saga

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: Saga

Originally posted by: Imp

You should tell that to my sibling who's working, been out of college over 5 years and still living at home. Oh, and many of my friends who are approaching 30 and doing the same😉.

No matter your physical age, if you are still living with your parents I don't consider you a constructive member of society.

If I EVER had to resort to the same situation for whatever reason, I would judge myself the same way and try my hardest to fix whatever had landed me there in the first place.

Of course taking care of a decrepit/injured parent is another story.

It's a very Asian thing. Unmarried kids usually don't leave their home. But they do contribute to the bills.

I can appreciate a culture clash there as much as anyone; this makes a whole lot more sense than all the arguments before it that simply attempted to take an opinion and bash me for it.

Newsflash, if you can have one, so can I. <3

You're the one bashing everyone else because they don't live in a way you think they should. I lived with my parents up until 25, I got married and bought a house. But according to your narrow way of thinking all those years I lived at home working, paying taxes, contributing money to the bills was for nothing because I did'nt contribute to society. :roll:

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: Lothar
ATOT has an unemployment range of 12.12%, well above the national average of 7.2%

Wow.

Err, you forgot the important quantifier : Amongst those whom voted. I won't comment on the percentages you quote since I don't know what time you posted it.

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: Saga

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: Saga

Originally posted by: Imp

You should tell that to my sibling who's working, been out of college over 5 years and still living at home. Oh, and many of my friends who are approaching 30 and doing the same😉.

No matter your physical age, if you are still living with your parents I don't consider you a constructive member of society.

If I EVER had to resort to the same situation for whatever reason, I would judge myself the same way and try my hardest to fix whatever had landed me there in the first place.

Of course taking care of a decrepit/injured parent is another story.

It's a very Asian thing. Unmarried kids usually don't leave their home. But they do contribute to the bills.

I can appreciate a culture clash there as much as anyone; this makes a whole lot more sense than all the arguments before it that simply attempted to take an opinion and bash me for it.

Newsflash, if you can have one, so can I. <3

The parents actually prefer this. That way the kids can save more money so that when they get hitched they have the down payment for the house. Asian parents are overprotective at times.

 

[Saga]

Originally posted by: Arkitech

You're the one bashing everyone else because they don't live in a way you think they should. I lived with my parents up until 25, I got married and bought a house. But according to your narrow way of thinking all those years I lived at home working, paying taxes, contributing money to the bills was for nothing because I did'nt contribute to society. :roll:

Look. I hate to burst your overly sensitive medical college-educated bubble, but it's pretty obvious to me that English comprehension was not an overtly critical part of your adult education.

All I ask is that you appreciate that had I said you were NOT a constructive member of society, that would have been me stating a fact. Quite an unprecedentedly false fact, at that, without actual proof to make it a fact.

Now that we have that established, please appreciate that I said "I don't consider you a constructive member of society" which in turn makes it an opinion. Use the typical cliche of "opinions are like assholes and everyone has them" if it makes you feel better about yourself, but the reality is you, and many others, are getting hypersensitive about an opinion; something that in all honestly makes you look rather foolish about doing.

If you really want, I can bash you all you want in PM's but this has gotten severely off topic by a lot of ignorance already and I genuinely don't feel it's necessary to continue it here.

 

[Saga]

Originally posted by: sdifox

The parents actually prefer this. That way the kids can save more money so that when they get hitched they have the down payment for the house. Asian parents are overprotective at times.

I find this genuinely interesting since the entire American dream is to become a rebel and get out of the house as soon as possible to pave your own path.

Are you sure this doesn't have more to do with the typical Japan-style living arrangements where it's so overly expensive to own your own place that communal living is simply more practical?

It just seems to me that for this to become a cultural thing it had to have a practical reason, historically speaking, to make this come about.

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: Saga

Originally posted by: sdifox

The parents actually prefer this. That way the kids can save more money so that when they get hitched they have the down payment for the house. Asian parents are overprotective at times.

I find this genuinely interesting since the entire American dream is to become a rebel and get out of the house as soon as possible to pave your own path.

Are you sure this doesn't have more to do with the typical Japan-style living arrangements where it's so overly expensive to own your own place that communal living is simply more practical?

It just seems to me that for this to become a cultural thing it had to have a practical reason, historically speaking, to make this come about.

Nope, Italians do it too, but I have no idea what the name is for the Italians. But the situation is a bit different with the Italians, some just won't leave. The parents don't mind because they like the company.

I don't think it's just practicality, more like tradition. A related tradition is the eldest male kid (usually the heir of the household) is basically responsible for taking care of the parents when they are not able to do so. This is expected, though it has waned these days due to the wife (or sometimes even the man himself) of said man not wanting to do so.

I fully expect my parents to live with me in a few more years.

 

[Arkitech]

Originally posted by: Saga

Originally posted by: Arkitech

You're the one bashing everyone else because they don't live in a way you think they should. I lived with my parents up until 25, I got married and bought a house. But according to your narrow way of thinking all those years I lived at home working, paying taxes, contributing money to the bills was for nothing because I did'nt contribute to society. :roll:

Look. I hate to burst your overly sensitive medical college-educated bubble, but it's pretty obvious to me that English comprehension was not an overtly critical part of your adult education.

All I ask is that you appreciate that had I said you were NOT a constructive member of society, that would have been me stating a fact. Quite an unprecedentedly false fact, at that, without actual proof to make it a fact.

Now that we have that established, please appreciate that I said "I don't consider you a constructive member of society" which in turn makes it an opinion. Use the typical cliche of "opinions are like assholes and everyone has them" if it makes you feel better about yourself, but the reality is you, and many others, are getting hypersensitive about an opinion; something that in all honestly makes you look rather foolish about doing.

If you really want, I can bash you all you want in PM's but this has gotten severely off topic by a lot of ignorance already and I genuinely don't feel it's necessary to continue it here.

First off, you're confusing me with someone else as I never attended medical college. Secondly you lack the wit to even understand your own statements, it's obvious everyone here realizes you are'nt making a factual statement. The reason people are bashing you is because your narrow minded point of view belittles other people's achievements and efforts in life. As you mature into an adult you'll come to realize that people tend to lash out at individuals who make thoughtless and uninformed comments.

On that note I hope your anus and your opinions both have a pleasant day. :thumbsup:😀

 

[Saga]

Originally posted by: Arkitech

First off, you're confusing me with someone else as I never attended medical college. Secondly you lack the wit to even understand your own statements, it's obvious everyone here realizes you are'nt making a factual statement. The reason people are bashing you is because your narrow minded point of view belittles other people's achievements and efforts in life. As you mature into an adult you'll come to realize that people tend to lash out at individuals who make thoughtless and uninformed comments.

On that note I hope your anus and your opinions both have a pleasant day. :thumbsup:😀

Caught me there, I wasn't paying enough attention to realize I wasn't responding to TheVrolok. Accept my apologies for that one, Arkitech.

Hopefully the Taco Bell in me from lunch agrees with your closing statement, I would be most appreciative. Cheers!

 

[imported_Imp]

Originally posted by: Saga

Originally posted by: sdifox

The parents actually prefer this. That way the kids can save more money so that when they get hitched they have the down payment for the house. Asian parents are overprotective at times.

I find this genuinely interesting since the entire American dream is to become a rebel and get out of the house as soon as possible to pave your own path.

Are you sure this doesn't have more to do with the typical Japan-style living arrangements where it's so overly expensive to own your own place that communal living is simply more practical?

It just seems to me that for this to become a cultural thing it had to have a practical reason, historically speaking, to make this come about.

No idea on Japan, but Chinese tradition has the kiddies staying home to take care of their extended family (i.e. parents and grandparents). The daughter would be married off to the son of another family, daughter would move in, then serve that family. The man of the house, the son, would stick around, make money, pay the 'bills', and take care of the parents. I don't think there is anything to do with buying your own house. Also, I may be mistaken, but if I recall correctly, the daughter's family would also pay a sort of tribute (or was that a polygamist, native tribe's culture...). Instead of throwing your parents/grand parents to a retirement/nursing home, society made it so that it was entirely the family's problem. Mainly got all of this from a chapter in my Anthropology textbook.

Now that we mix West with East, it appears to have 'evolved' into a financial thing like sdifox said. Parents want kids to stay home so they save money, then can buy their own house when they get married. The less 'westernized' families probably still take care of their parents. However, when you are given the option of unloading them into the government's hands versus dealing with an 80 year old infant, culture/tradition goes out the window.

Edit: To clarify, I mean actual China-Chinese in the pre-commie days, not AMCs or FOBs.