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unemployment benefits

pontifex

Lifer
Can someone that has been laid off and used unemployment benefits PM me? Preferrably PA unemployment.

There doesn't seem to be any easy to understand thing on there that answers my questions.
 
Just know that if you did anything illegal, you are automatically disqualified. I knew that sheep would come back to haunt me.
 
I've always been too proud to collect unemployment. Mind you, I certainly took advantage of the Pell Grant and other government handouts, but for some reason I just couldn't bring myself to collect unemployment.

I guess there have to be people like me to make up for all the illegitimate claims.

Good luck OP, just remember to put it all back when you're done with it.😉
 
I've read that you and your company pay into unemployment for these eventualities, so unless you abuse it just think of it as actually using up that insurance you've been paying for.
 
The employer pays a "tax" to the state based on their track record and your income level.

You fill out forms (can be done online) and wait for approval.
After that, you can setup direct deposit of the payments.

PA unemployment should be no different than other states in the general process.
The payment & benefit levels may be different though.
 
Originally posted by: pontifex
I've read that you and your company pay into unemployment for these eventualities, so unless you abuse it just think of it as actually using up that insurance you've been paying for.

Yep!
 
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: pontifex
I've read that you and your company pay into unemployment for these eventualities, so unless you abuse it just think of it as actually using up that insurance you've been paying for.

Yep!


That's why I had no problem collecting when I was laid off a year ago.
I'm not into collecting welfare or those types of things.
I saw it as them paying me another 6 months to make up for the low pay and crappy work conditions when I did work there. 🙂
In OK, you have to go to the office and fill out some forms, but after that it's all online (weekly reports/claims, etc).
 
Originally posted by: Soundmanred
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: pontifex
I've read that you and your company pay into unemployment for these eventualities, so unless you abuse it just think of it as actually using up that insurance you've been paying for.

Yep!


That's why I had no problem collecting when I was laid off a year ago.
I'm not into collecting welfare or those types of things.
I saw it as them paying me another 6 months to make up for the low pay and crappy work conditions when I did work there. 🙂
In OK, you have to go to the office and fill out some forms, but after that it's all online (weekly reports/claims, etc).

looks like i can do everything online in PA
 
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Soundmanred
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: pontifex
I've read that you and your company pay into unemployment for these eventualities, so unless you abuse it just think of it as actually using up that insurance you've been paying for.

Yep!


That's why I had no problem collecting when I was laid off a year ago.
I'm not into collecting welfare or those types of things.
I saw it as them paying me another 6 months to make up for the low pay and crappy work conditions when I did work there. 🙂
In OK, you have to go to the office and fill out some forms, but after that it's all online (weekly reports/claims, etc).

looks like i can do everything online in PA

Hope things work out for you!

Merry Christmas Pontifex. Relax for a little while and enjoy your time off.
 
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Soundmanred
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: pontifex
I've read that you and your company pay into unemployment for these eventualities, so unless you abuse it just think of it as actually using up that insurance you've been paying for.

Yep!


That's why I had no problem collecting when I was laid off a year ago.
I'm not into collecting welfare or those types of things.
I saw it as them paying me another 6 months to make up for the low pay and crappy work conditions when I did work there. 🙂
In OK, you have to go to the office and fill out some forms, but after that it's all online (weekly reports/claims, etc).

looks like i can do everything online in PA

Hope things work out for you!

Merry Christmas Pontifex. Relax for a little while and enjoy your time off.

Thanks.
unfortunately i'm not the kind of person that relaxes in these situations. i mean, i don't get all crazy that other people can notice, but i do probably stress myself out way more than is needed most times.


well, i'm going to try to relax and go to bed.
 
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Soundmanred
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: pontifex
I've read that you and your company pay into unemployment for these eventualities, so unless you abuse it just think of it as actually using up that insurance you've been paying for.

Yep!


That's why I had no problem collecting when I was laid off a year ago.
I'm not into collecting welfare or those types of things.
I saw it as them paying me another 6 months to make up for the low pay and crappy work conditions when I did work there. 🙂
In OK, you have to go to the office and fill out some forms, but after that it's all online (weekly reports/claims, etc).

looks like i can do everything online in PA

Beginning 1/1, I'm going to have to start applying for UC as well. I tried doing it via the web, but it wouldn't let me get past the part where I had to enter my end date of my current employment (no future dates allowed).

Let me know how it goes for you, if you don't mind. I'm in PA as well.
 
Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
The employer pays a "tax" to the state based on their track record and your income level.

You fill out forms (can be done online) and wait for approval.
After that, you can setup direct deposit of the payments.

PA unemployment should be no different than other states in the general process.
The payment & benefit levels may be different though.

When I worked in Alabama the employee paid unemployment tax to the state. Not the employer. Wasn't much but strange - at least to me.
 
Originally posted by: woodie1
Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
The employer pays a "tax" to the state based on their track record and your income level.

You fill out forms (can be done online) and wait for approval.
After that, you can setup direct deposit of the payments.

PA unemployment should be no different than other states in the general process.
The payment & benefit levels may be different though.

When I worked in Alabama the employee paid unemployment tax to the state. Not the employer. Wasn't much but strange - at least to me.



You're partly right...the employer pays the bulk of the unemployment tax, but in some states, the employee is also charged an unemployment tax. (much smaller rate than the employer)

Every state has its own rates I think, and companies may have lower rates than the norm, based on their historical unemployment rates and such.
From the Alabama DIR website:

"Employers newly liable under the Alabama UC law pay tax at the rate of 2.70% on the first $8,000 of wages for each employee. Subsequent rates are determined by Experience Rating.

An employer which has operated a sufficient period of time to qualify for experience rating earns a tax rate based upon the employer's own experience (benefit charges and taxable payroll), modified by statewide experience (schedule and shared cost). Inclusive of the 0.06% Employment Security Enhancement Assessment (ESA), an Employer's rate can vary from 0.20% to 6.80% depending on the one of four rate schedules in effect, plus any applicable shared cost. Refer to the tax rate calculation information below for tax terms defined such as tax rate schedule, shared cost and ESA."


From the Cornell Law Institute:

"TITLE 26 > Subtitle C > CHAPTER 23 > § 3301Prev | Next § 3301. Rate of tax
How Current is This? There is hereby imposed on every employer (as defined in section 3306 (a)) for each calendar year an excise tax, with respect to having individuals in his employ, equal to?
(1) 6.2 percent in the case of calendar years 1988 through 2007; or
(2) 6.0 percent in the case of calendar year 2008 and each calendar year thereafter;
of the total wages (as defined in section 3306 (b)) paid by him during the calendar year with respect to employment (as defined in section 3306 (c)).

 
Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Soundmanred
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: pontifex
I've read that you and your company pay into unemployment for these eventualities, so unless you abuse it just think of it as actually using up that insurance you've been paying for.

Yep!


That's why I had no problem collecting when I was laid off a year ago.
I'm not into collecting welfare or those types of things.
I saw it as them paying me another 6 months to make up for the low pay and crappy work conditions when I did work there. 🙂
In OK, you have to go to the office and fill out some forms, but after that it's all online (weekly reports/claims, etc).

looks like i can do everything online in PA

Beginning 1/1, I'm going to have to start applying for UC as well. I tried doing it via the web, but it wouldn't let me get past the part where I had to enter my end date of my current employment (no future dates allowed).

Let me know how it goes for you, if you don't mind. I'm in PA as well.

From what I understand, you can't apply until you haven't worked for at least a week, Sun through Saturday. My last day is 12/30/2008 so I won't be able to apply until 1/11/2009. Sucks that you can't get a head start on it though.
 
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Soundmanred
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: pontifex
I've read that you and your company pay into unemployment for these eventualities, so unless you abuse it just think of it as actually using up that insurance you've been paying for.

Yep!


That's why I had no problem collecting when I was laid off a year ago.
I'm not into collecting welfare or those types of things.
I saw it as them paying me another 6 months to make up for the low pay and crappy work conditions when I did work there. 🙂
In OK, you have to go to the office and fill out some forms, but after that it's all online (weekly reports/claims, etc).

looks like i can do everything online in PA

Beginning 1/1, I'm going to have to start applying for UC as well. I tried doing it via the web, but it wouldn't let me get past the part where I had to enter my end date of my current employment (no future dates allowed).

Let me know how it goes for you, if you don't mind. I'm in PA as well.

From what I understand, you can't apply until you haven't worked for at least a week, Sun through Saturday. My last day is 12/30/2008 so I won't be able to apply until 1/11/2009. Sucks that you can't get a head start on it though.

Yeah, and on top of that, it takes a few weeks for your application to clear and then 4+ more 'til you receive your first check. Luckily, I have some money saved up and I'm going to be doing some under-the-table web design jobs, but people easily go two months with no income.

You also have to sign up for that CareerLinks PA site-- did you see that?
 
Originally posted by: jagec
I've always been too proud to collect unemployment. Mind you, I certainly took advantage of the Pell Grant and other government handouts, but for some reason I just couldn't bring myself to collect unemployment.

I guess there have to be people like me to make up for all the illegitimate claims.

Good luck OP, just remember to put it all back when you're done with it.😉



So if you wreck your car, you'd be too proud too take money from the auto insurance company too, eh?


That's about the dumbest thing I have ever heard.......



 
Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21

Yeah, and on top of that, it takes a few weeks for your application to clear and then 4+ more 'til you receive your first check. Luckily, I have some money saved up and I'm going to be doing some under-the-table web design jobs, but people easily go two months with no income.

You also have to sign up for that CareerLinks PA site-- did you see that?

no, i don't recall seeing that mentioned, although i haven't gone through the app process at all yet so maybe that's why.

this site?

That might be for helping us find a job?


Rudeguy answered a few of my questions in PM. He said that they will help you find a job. I was wondering if they help you find ANY job or if they try to find you jobs in your specific field? Are they going to get me a job at McDonald's or will they try to get me sometihng in tech support since that is what I was doing when I found that I am being laid off.


Another question, not really related to unemployment though, is on the actual term of what is happening to me. I've been saying laid off but someone else mentioned it could be RIF (reduction in work force). The letter I received says "your position with <company> will be eliminated effective January 2, 2009. I was told by HR that the reason it is being elminated is because of budget cutbacks. is that being laid off or RIF?
 
I've been tryign to get MA unemployment for 3 weeks. I enter all my info, then they say 'we're too busy to get to you. goodbye' and the thing disconnects.
 
Originally posted by: DomS
I've been tryign to get MA unemployment for 3 weeks. I enter all my info, then they say 'we're too busy to get to you. goodbye' and the thing disconnects.

damn. have you tried calling?
 
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Soundmanred
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: pontifex
I've read that you and your company pay into unemployment for these eventualities, so unless you abuse it just think of it as actually using up that insurance you've been paying for.

Yep!


That's why I had no problem collecting when I was laid off a year ago.
I'm not into collecting welfare or those types of things.
I saw it as them paying me another 6 months to make up for the low pay and crappy work conditions when I did work there. 🙂
In OK, you have to go to the office and fill out some forms, but after that it's all online (weekly reports/claims, etc).

looks like i can do everything online in PA

Beginning 1/1, I'm going to have to start applying for UC as well. I tried doing it via the web, but it wouldn't let me get past the part where I had to enter my end date of my current employment (no future dates allowed).

Let me know how it goes for you, if you don't mind. I'm in PA as well.

From what I understand, you can't apply until you haven't worked for at least a week, Sun through Saturday. My last day is 12/30/2008 so I won't be able to apply until 1/11/2009. Sucks that you can't get a head start on it though.

You can apply on the first day of the week that you don't work, but you have a waiting week that you don't get paid for. If you wait to file, you still have that waiting week...
If your last day is 12/30, you should file on 1/3 to get that waiting week over...in fact, depending on your wages for the week of 12/30, you MAY be eligible for part of that week too...


BTW, laid off is the same thing as RIF or ROF...it differentiates between being fired for cause and just let go because of reasons not your fault.
 
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: woodie1
Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
The employer pays a "tax" to the state based on their track record and your income level.

You fill out forms (can be done online) and wait for approval.
After that, you can setup direct deposit of the payments.

PA unemployment should be no different than other states in the general process.
The payment & benefit levels may be different though.

When I worked in Alabama the employee paid unemployment tax to the state. Not the employer. Wasn't much but strange - at least to me.



You're partly right...the employer pays the bulk of the unemployment tax, but in some states, the employee is also charged an unemployment tax. (much smaller rate than the employer)

Every state has its own rates I think, and companies may have lower rates than the norm, based on their historical unemployment rates and such.
From the Alabama DIR website:

"Employers newly liable under the Alabama UC law pay tax at the rate of 2.70% on the first $8,000 of wages for each employee. Subsequent rates are determined by Experience Rating.

An employer which has operated a sufficient period of time to qualify for experience rating earns a tax rate based upon the employer's own experience (benefit charges and taxable payroll), modified by statewide experience (schedule and shared cost). Inclusive of the 0.06% Employment Security Enhancement Assessment (ESA), an Employer's rate can vary from 0.20% to 6.80% depending on the one of four rate schedules in effect, plus any applicable shared cost. Refer to the tax rate calculation information below for tax terms defined such as tax rate schedule, shared cost and ESA."


From the Cornell Law Institute:

"TITLE 26 > Subtitle C > CHAPTER 23 > § 3301Prev | Next § 3301. Rate of tax
How Current is This? There is hereby imposed on every employer (as defined in section 3306 (a)) for each calendar year an excise tax, with respect to having individuals in his employ, equal to?
(1) 6.2 percent in the case of calendar years 1988 through 2007; or
(2) 6.0 percent in the case of calendar year 2008 and each calendar year thereafter;
of the total wages (as defined in section 3306 (b)) paid by him during the calendar year with respect to employment (as defined in section 3306 (c)).

I worked there in 1979-1981 and the employee paid the premium not the employer.
 
Originally posted by: woodie1

I worked there in 1979-1981 and the employee paid the premium not the employer.

Being Alabama, that wouldn't surprise me in the slightest, but AFAIK, it's actually against the federal law for the employee to pay ALL of it...usually, the employee only picks up a small part of the total unemployment tax.
 
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: woodie1

I worked there in 1979-1981 and the employee paid the premium not the employer.

Being Alabama, that wouldn't surprise me in the slightest, but AFAIK, it's actually against the federal law for the employee to pay ALL of it...usually, the employee only picks up a small part of the total unemployment tax.

It could be against the law now but not then. I've worked in a great many states and AL was the only one that collected that from me. Their weekly benefit was extremely low then too.
 
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