Unemployed need not apply

[TheSlamma]

I can understand a place not wanting some bum who has milked unemployment for say 4 months (sorry but it's time to leave your field and get a damn job if it's taking this long, there ARE jobs out there people are just being selective) but if you are on week one busting your butt trying to get back into a job this is a bunch of shit.

 

[ShawnD1]

What made you stop being a chemist? Would you recommend getting a hard science degree to other people?

Absolutely would not recommend it unless you plan on going for a PhD and doing hardcore research. I got out because it didn't pay enough and the benefits sucked and it wasn't specialized. To fully train a QC chemist, it takes maybe 6 months at any given company and skills are not transferable between companies.

Right now I'm an electrical engineer working with transportation systems. The time it takes to be proficient is in the ballpark of 5-10 years. People in engineering don't just meet a level of qualification then stop. You get better and better as you get more experience. The people who know what they are doing are incredibly hard to replace, so the pay is more reasonable, the benefits are excellent if you're a family man, and it feels rewarding to contribute to a construction project

It actually somewhat relates to this thread, but I was working at McDonalds when they hired me. The fast food place. Even working at McDonalds probably looked a lot better than not working at all.

 

[Budmantom]

They should do that for voting too.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

The unemployed need to join hire on as bounty hunters. 50 dollars a pelt for employers who will hire them now that they have found work.

Maybe the unemployed could start a market in selling human flesh for consumption. Of course the tastiest and most satisfying flesh is that of executives who decide to discriminate against the unemployed. Perhaps they would be very tasty if slow-roasted.

 

[WackyDan]

I can understand a place not wanting some bum who has milked unemployment for say 4 months (sorry but it's time to leave your field and get a damn job if it's taking this long, there ARE jobs out there people are just being selective) but if you are on week one busting your butt trying to get back into a job this is a bunch of shit.

I spent six months on unemployment. It was not for lack of looking, networking, experience, or change of career path that prevented me from finding a job. There simply weren't many. Of the two most promising interviews I had, one company low balled me to the point of fantasy. They wanted me for my connections in large accounts they wanted into, but undercut my former base pay by 50k... Yes.. it was that bad. My resume/experience, and accomplishments were stellar. With no debt other than the mortgage, I was willing to take 1/3 cut or better in pay.

The 2nd company was the same one that laid me off. I was the obvious best candidate for the position, but they hired a career rookie from outside the org... Why? Because they could bring her in at about 30k less than me.

Every other job lead was " We need someone like you, but we don't have funding for the position yet".

So... 4 months does not make anyone a bum. Start talking about those 99 weekers and you might be closer to reality.

 

[Zebo]

When another P&N member needs a bitch slapping, I simply do what needs to be done.



Spoken like a true enemy of the common man.

Don't worry about me spanky, I'll work when the state stops paying me not to.

Well I hope you take your 60K+ in UE bennies and start a business or something as it's obvious employers have no need for unemployed.

 

[Imdmn04]

As a manager myself, we certainly cut the fat first, then the meat, then to the bones, depending on the financial situation of the company.

Not all laid-off workers are bad workers, in fact, I've hired laid-off people that were superstars, but they don't come around often. I do still believe you will have a better chance of finding higher quality workers in the employed pool than the non-employed pool from a statistics perspective.

 

[Zebo]

As a manager myself, we certainly cut the fat first, then the meat, then to the bones, depending on the financial situation of the company.

Not all laid-off workers are bad workers, in fact, I've hired laid-off people that were superstars, but they don't come around often. I do still believe you will have a better chance of finding higher quality workers in the employed pool than the non-employed pool from a statistics perspective.

All good hiring managers know it takes effort to separate the wheat from the chaff but many are lazy and post ads like this because like you say you improve odds. Only real problem with it is a moral/American dream problem if someone went through the effort of education and/or had work to me it's reasonable to give them a shot vs. someone who is already gainfully employed.

 

[Moonbeam]

If you create a system in which a job is required to live and you can't get a job you destroy the system as created, period.