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Undercover cops bust homemade food ring

madoka

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Nice to know the police have nothing better to do than bust people trying to share homemade meals for the past year. I guess they'll go after kids' lemonade stands next.

I understand the need to make sure that the public is protected, but if I'm buying homemade food, I understand and accept the risks involved.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ling-ceviche-through-facebook-group/#comments

Mariza Ruelas never expected a plate of ceviche would lead her to the court house and maybe even a possible jail sentence.

For more than a year, undercover investigators in San Joaquin County, California tracked the sales of food — such as homemade tamales, tortillas and cakes — through a community Facebook group, a sting that Mariza Ruelas called a “waste of time and resources and taxpayers’ money.”

Ruelas, a single mother of six, first came across the Facebook group about two years ago when she needed a last-minute cake for her daughter’s quinceañera, the Hispanic coming-of-age celebration on a young woman’s 15th birthday.

The community forum, 209 Food Spot, allowed Stockton, Calif. residents to share recipes, organize potlucks and occasionally sell or exchange food items.

As a hobby, about once a month, Ruelas began offering up her own dishes — a tray of rice and beans in exchange for a birthday cake, her staple chicken-stuffed avocados to those who requested it, she said in a phone interview with the Post.

Then, in July, she received a letter in the mail: she was being summoned to court. Ruelas, along with several other group members, faced citations for two misdemeanors — operating a food facility and engaging in business without a permit. An undercover investigator had ordered a ceviche from her through the Facebook group in October 2015 as part of a sting.

At least a half-dozen other members accepted a plea deal of one year of probation, a $235 fine and 40 hours of community service. Ruelas was offered a deal with twice the community service, three years of probation and the $235 fine, so she refused to accept it, she said.

The single mother of six is headed to trial and faces up to a year in jail for her misdemeanors.

“We didn’t see any harm in that,” she said, of selling and exchanging meals through the group. “There wasn’t anybody selling it daily. A lot of times, they were just getting back what they put into the ingredients.”

She hadn’t ever looked into obtaining a permit, Ruelas said, because she only sold or exchanged food items once or twice a month at most, as a hobby on occasional weekends. It was an activity she enjoyed sharing with her children, ages 6 through 20, who would help prepare and deliver some of the dishes with her.

Sometimes, during the holidays, Ruelas and her children would donate the meals to the homeless, Ruelas said.

“The purpose wasn’t to sell food,” Ruelas said. “We wanted to bring something positive to our community.” She mentioned Stockton’s high crime and soaring homicide rates.

“They took the time to be investigating for over a year now,” she said of her case. “But they can’t solve all these unsolved murders?”
 
I read this earlier today. I had to read it three times to figure out it wasn't a satire piece.

As a progressive big gubm't liberal I think this is one of the dumbest laws to enforce or have and an absolutely massive waste of law enforcement's time.
 
it's really a good thing all the crime is solved these days so they can go after the harmless criminals.

wait, what do you mean there is still serious crime still going on?
 
Nice to know the police have nothing better to do than bust people trying to share homemade meals for the past year. I guess they'll go after kids' lemonade stands next.

Busting up drug rings is dangerous and ultimately pointless. Food rings and lemonade stands are not protected by guys with AK-47s.
 
I read this earlier today. I had to read it three times to figure out it wasn't a satire piece.

As a progressive big gubm't liberal I think this is one of the dumbest laws to enforce or have and an absolutely massive waste of law enforcement's time.

Well, they clearly broke the law. Also, hilariously slanted article.
 
Instead of making them stop with no harm no foul, they go full force into fines/imprisonment

City, county, and state gov. are in bad financial shape. Hard to terminate employees and falling tax base. Charging and offering a probation deal with fines equals a steady income for the length of the probation. Here you pay min. $75 for every meeting. With a private corp. probation officer. Most see 16 "criminals" a day. How much is kicked back to the state is unknown by me.

When she refused to pay the fine and take a deal for probation she started costing the gov. $. They will most likely come down hard on her now.

If I recall correctly there are ~50,000 new rules and regulations every year now. Fines and probation is what the criminal "justice" is now. It is a new income stream.


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Clearly this is a take on the "broken windows" policy: go after the minor food exchanges so that the foodie kingpins and raw milk dealers know you mean business. 😀

P.S.
<- P&N is thataway
 
Freaking ridiculous. Does not surprise me there are such laws. The government does not like when people can become self sufficient, yet another example here.

They actually do not allow even kids to have lemonade stands anymore, it's completely absurd.

Laws like this just come to show the government is not for the people, it's for the corporations. They don't like the idea of people making money without being part of the capitalist corporate system. Work for the man, and buy from the man, and don't you dare try anything else.
 
Something tells me the police didn't assemble a task force to bust this criminal operation. Makes a good news story. Exactly the sort of thing people love to be outraged over.

The laws are in place for a reason. How much this woman will be fined or made to do community service will likely end up being a function of how often she broke the law. I suspect she won't be spending a year in jail.
 
The fact that the laws exist in first place is what is retarded. This is just laws for the sake of laws, completely ridiculous, and there is too much of that crap all around these days. It all boils down to money in the end.

Law enforcement these days seems more concerned about these petty crimes than actual real crimes. You hear of people getting murdered, assaulted, broken into etc and nothing ever comes of that.
 
The fact that the laws exist in first place is what is retarded.

A law that says people can't just sell food that they make in their kitchens? How would you be able to require and enforce health department inspections without such laws?

Or a law that says you can operate a business without a license? Good luck getting any of those repealed.

Your issue is with the application of the laws, not the laws themselves.
 
A law that says people can't just sell food that they make in their kitchens? How would you be able to require and enforce health department inspections without such laws?

Or a law that says you can operate a business without a license? Good luck getting any of those repealed.

Your issue is with the application of the laws, not the laws themselves.

Simply exchanging food between a private group should not even be considered running a business. That's just ridiculous. That's part of the issue with the law system there is zero common sense used. Yeah on paper I suppose it could be considered a business, but if you apply a small amount of common sense, it's not like they're trying to mass produce food to sell to the general public it's just a small private group exchanging stuff between each other. If by chance someone was to get food poisoning within that private group then let it settle it on their own. If they're a bunch of friends chances are it would be a "oh crap sorry" and they move on. If the person is an asshole then they'll sue or something. But cross that bridge if it even happens instead of just just throwing everybody in jail for illegal baking. Lol illegal baking, that's literally what this is, too.

If they really cared about food safety they would crack down on all the crap that gets put into our food by megacorporations in the name of profit.

I guess it's time for people to use TOR private exchanges to exchange food lol. Silk Road 3.0: we have illegal cookies.
 
Did you miss the part where she was also selling the food, not just exchanging it?


A person SHOULD be able to buy food from another person without the health department being involved. The customers obviously know they are buying from an individual cooking out of a kitchen.
 
A person SHOULD be able to buy food from another person without the health department being involved. The customers obviously know they are buying from an individual cooking out of a kitchen.

Exactly. It's not like they opened a store front. It was a private sale. Though it's ridiculous how the government really likes to put their nose even in private sales. Just look at all the red tape of selling a car, or fact that you have to pay taxes, again. Taxes were already paid on that car when it was bought but they want even more taxes paid on it. It's ridiculous.
 
A person SHOULD be able to buy food from another person without the health department being involved. The customers obviously know they are buying from an individual cooking out of a kitchen.

I dont agree,to buy food yes. but to make it for the public to sell is and should be a health dept issue.
 
Gov't stuck it to the Mormons too. Not to get into their religion, but they do believe in preparedness. They ran a bunch of canneries across the country where anyone could go in and buy bulk foods and can them themselves right there at a very low cost.
Gov't decided they needed to follow restaurant health rules. You can still get the food but they can it at a few places and ship it around the country, at a higher cost.
I get the letter of the law, but I think the spirit of the law is to go after traditional restaurants.
 
Gov't stuck it to the Mormons too. Not to get into their religion, but they do believe in preparedness. They ran a bunch of canneries across the country where anyone could go in and buy bulk foods and can them themselves right there at a very low cost.
Gov't decided they needed to follow restaurant health rules. You can still get the food but they can it at a few places and ship it around the country, at a higher cost.
I get the letter of the law, but I think the spirit of the law is to go after traditional restaurants.


I was affected by the great flood at Grand Forks North Dakota in 1996. The Red Cross handed out pallets upon pallets of Mormon canned food to the flood victims. I was not bad.

Mormons are serious hardcore preppers. the amount of food they have stashed is mind boggling.
 
I read this earlier today. I had to read it three times to figure out it wasn't a satire piece.

As a progressive big gubm't liberal I think this is one of the dumbest laws to enforce or have and an absolutely massive waste of law enforcement's time.

You can't be a progressive big gubm't liberal and be opposed to laws like these. This is a natural consequence of a government that feels it is their duty to protect everybody from any possible harm. "Buyer beware" no longer exists thanks to progressive big gubm't liberals.

What you mean to say is, "As a progressive big gubm't liberal I think this law should only apply to big businesses that are extra businessy, and not small mom and pops because they're like indie and shit, man".
 
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