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unbuntu 7.04 just failed on me

Lord Banshee

Golden Member
Ok well i been running 7.04 for about a week and last night i did one of those updates with their update system and now it will not boot 🙁

When i select the ubuntu..............-14 it says starting, then goes to the ubuntu loading screen and the progress bar never moves.

It will allow me to use ubuntu...........-12 at the grub menu but i get some weird errors

So i am new to linux and wondering how can i try to fix whatever went wrong?? I think it is important to learn how to fix this things that break, as it is a good way to understand a new OS is to fix things that break.

If anyone has an idea let me know,
Chris Ruesga
 
You should be able to hit 'e' on the Ubuntu...-14 line then 'e' again on the kernel line, remove the words "splash" and "quiet" and hit enter then 'b' to boot and see what happens.
 
ok thanks

It seems to stop or freeze during the load of the sata drivers for one my hard drives

Here is the picture of what is displayed on screen.

My Problem Pic

So i am guessing this update has missed with the drivers that used to work and now it doesn't.

One solution i can think of is to use the driver for sata drive that the .......-12 is using instead of the ones it is using now. But i have no idea how to find this info out or make the fix in what file.

So whats my next step?
 
It's being fixed. The updated kernel is coming fairly soon but the Release Candidate was delayed because of this.
 
thanks silverpig,

I used what this guy said in that forum thread, Onyros:

OK, guys... for people with the same problem I had, I have found a solution.

I'll edit this post in a minute and tell you what I did to temporarily solve this problem, so don't despair yet.

Here it goes.

Go grab yourselves some sort of Live CD, anything with which you can access your Ubuntu partition with read & write acess (I used Damn Small, for instance)

The really simple solution for now is to replace your initrd.img-2.6.20-14-386 which is located in the /boot folder with the one that's marked as initrd.img-2.6.20-14-386.bak (the backup you replaced with the earlier upgrade).

Try booting into Ubuntu then, and... voilá. You're back

So, for the time being, and at least while you know it's not safe to upgrade, hold your trigger-happy littles finger, make a backup of the good initrd.img-2.6.20-14-386 and keep it for when you do venture into trying to upgrade again. *relief sigh*


And it works by doing most of what he said. I did the following
1) boot into xxx-12 kernel
2) make copy of xxxx-14.bak kernel, store somewhere safe
3) del xxxx-14 kernel, using sudo and terminal commands ( i do not know how to give my self permission via gui file browser)
cp - to copy
4) rm (remove) xxxx-14.bak
5) copy xxxx-14.bak as xxx-14
6) reboot everything works

I should really sign up to that forum. So do you know how to give myself permission in the GUI?

Thanks Again silverpig

-Chris
 
there was a -15 to download and guess what that kills boot too

will try the gksudo nautilus

thanks Alone

*edit*

so is there a way to purge the -15 from my system correctly? i know i could just delete the information from the grub menu but i don't want to leave the stuff behind.
 
There is a --purge option for uninstalling software.

Either something like
apt-get remove --purge blah

Or there in synaptic if you right click a package you can select 'check for complete removal'.

What this does is remove any configuration files and such. Carefull with removing kernels though.
 
Eventually there'll be an apt-get command presented when you update.

xx is no longer required
use the command "apt-get autoremove" to remove these files

Or something like that.
 
Alone,

i tried "apt-get autoremove" and it asks to remove the xxx-14 kernel not the -15. I am running off of -14.

Any other ideas?
 

But after a while the boot menu will get long with the different kernel options right?

Sure. Just becarefull removing them if that bothers you.

i tried "apt-get autoremove" and it asks to remove the xxx-14 kernel not the -15. I am running off of -14.

Problem is that since the one your removing is newer apt-get will always keep on wanting to install the newer one. Normally this is fine, but obviously in this case the new one has a nasty bug.

If you realy want to get rid of it you use apt-get's 'pinning' to have it prefer one version of a package or another. That's not hard to do, but personally I'd just edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst, find the 'default' line and change that so it defaults to the older kernel. (remember the first number is zero). Then just leave the new crappy kernel installed.

When Ubuntu releases a fixed kernel then you can just upgrade and change grub back to default. Then it will be easy to delete the crappy kernel.

That is if I understand correctly everything that is going on.
 
I just did an update to 7.04. There were a few problems during the install and I had to issue the update command a few times, but after two reboots everything is working perfectly well for me. And that's on the -15 kernel too.

*shrug*
 
Originally posted by: silverpig
I just did an update to 7.04. There were a few problems during the install and I had to issue the update command a few times, but after two reboots everything is working perfectly well for me. And that's on the -15 kernel too.

*shrug*

is this issue only on an update or a fresh install as well..? <edit>
 
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