Unbelievable...... I'm speechless

[Inappropriate4AT]

Originally posted by: tami
a couple of years ago, we had a transportation director in my high school in north miami beach, FL. he was a good guy and became well established over the years. one night, however, about 10 of the 15 school buses were found vandalized. the buses were then sent to a reputable bus repair company and were restored.

eventually, one of the vandals, however, turned himself into police, saying that he was paid by the transportation director to vandalize the buses. even more shocking is that the bus repair company was the transportation dude's father's company.

the guy served two years, i think. the incident was even mentioned in US news and world report in '99 or so.

so much for his career.

i say you follow a similar path.

Funny thing is, it's the little guy that gets sh!t on and thrown in jail for doing roughly the same thing Halliburton is.

 

[sixone]

Originally posted by: Inappropriate4AT

Originally posted by: tami
a couple of years ago, we had a transportation director in my high school in north miami beach, FL. he was a good guy and became well established over the years. one night, however, about 10 of the 15 school buses were found vandalized. the buses were then sent to a reputable bus repair company and were restored.

eventually, one of the vandals, however, turned himself into police, saying that he was paid by the transportation director to vandalize the buses. even more shocking is that the bus repair company was the transportation dude's father's company.

the guy served two years, i think. the incident was even mentioned in US news and world report in '99 or so.

so much for his career.

i say you follow a similar path.

Funny thing is, it's the little guy that gets sh!t on and thrown in jail for doing roughly the same thing Halliburton is.

Take it to P&N - I'm sure you'll find someone there who cares. :roll:

 

[Inappropriate4AT]

Originally posted by: sixone

Take it to P&N - I'm sure you'll find someone there who cares. :roll:

I need a few minutes to get out of my political mindset.

 

[Scarpozzi]

Originally posted by: mitmot

Originally posted by: Blieb
You'd better do something about this. Report him, file a claim or something. Call the police to see if it's illegal.

He's going to do this to someone who isn't savvy enough to look up the business.

:thumbsup:

Yeah....send him to a federal pound-him-in-the-arse prison.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

if Florida requires contractor licenses, contact the board. Unethical behavious is grounds for revocation of a contractor's license.

 

[MaxDepth]

News 2 cares about you!
Tell the newspeople and watch them make those folks squirm.

 

[Syrch]

man i love my home town of S Fla

 

[randomlinh]

fl.. blah.. my friend's parents had a whole lot of trouble w/ a development company... they screwed up where they built t he house, marked off lines WITHOUT consulting my friend's parents... which causes them to have to haul in a couple truckloads of sand... etc, etc... everything was written in the contract, the company really was at a loss... but not a single lawyer would take the case. They say the laws/loopholes all bend to the developers and the likelihood of getting anything... sucks.

blah, not helpful, but i'm in a ranting mood.

 

[halik]

wow,
what a shady shady man

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: compuwiz1
This whole thing reeks of conflicts of interests. I say they wash their hands of all involved. They have not signed a contract. They should get the roofing fixed, of their own accord, then consider relisting the house for sale at a later time. It sounds like someone is trying to take advantage of them.

Gee. . .Sounds like somebody's trying to take advantage of them? No! You think??
As soon as I heard a $32,000 estimate to fix some loose/missing shingles and couple "small" leaks I'd have kicked that contractor square in the nuts and told him to never set foot on my property again. Of course it would never have come to that because as soon as the buyer mentioned he had "a friend in the roofing business" I'd have just said, "Yeah so do I. I'll have him come do the job."

Yeah the guy is trying to swindle your parents. If he wanted them to lower the asking price he should have just made a lower offer to begin with. Still, they should get the roof fixed before relisting the home. Loose this buyer. Who knows what he'll try next.

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: kukyfrope
Wow nice detective work. I would at least call the police and try to report this situation. What's the worst that happens? They say they can't do anything but have his name on file?

I don't know how the laws are in florida for builders/contractors but at the very least I bet you could get his license or accreditation revoked for this. That would pretty much ruin his business.

I have seen situations like this before where unscrupulous contractors who run their own contracting firms get on projects that are managed by my company in project management type positions and then use their position to fill the project with their own contractors instead of regular full time employees from my company. No doubt they are giving kickbacks to somebody in my company to look the other way and they have also listed their wives as the presidents of their firms on paper so everything looks nice and tidy when the conflict of interest questions start coming up. But it's a pretty vain attempt. . .its such a paper thin veil.

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: MaxDepth
News 2 cares about you!
Tell the newspeople and watch them make those folks squirm.

That is actually the best idea I've seen on this topic so far. Put them out there in front of everybody. I bet the journalist crew would dig up a whole bunch of other unsavory stuff this guy has done in the past as well.

 

[alien42]

what is the roofing company? at least atot can have some fun with them

 

[tami]

Originally posted by: alien42
what is the roofing company? at least atot can have some fun with them

true true. my parents still live there; i'd love to know who these cons are.

 

[Kelemvor]

I'd have your parents contact an attorney ASAP. Once they have a signed contract, it depend son what the stipulations are if there's a natural disaster that happens in between the contract being signed and the actual closing.

Your parents should also get their own quotes for having the roof replaced. And do NOT under any circumstances take the full price of the roof off the selling price of the house. Have it fixed and then UP the price because now he's getting a brand new roof. Of if they wanted, they could maybe take off half if they were feeling generous.

 

[maziwanka]

can you imagine what would have happened before the days of the internet?

un-freaking-believable.

im really glad to see that your parents were really smart about the whole thing....

 

[aphex]

Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
I'd have your parents contact an attorney ASAP. Once they have a signed contract, it depend son what the stipulations are if there's a natural disaster that happens in between the contract being signed and the actual closing.

Your parents should also get their own quotes for having the roof replaced. And do NOT under any circumstances take the full price of the roof off the selling price of the house. Have it fixed and then UP the price because now he's getting a brand new roof. Of if they wanted, they could maybe take off half if they were feeling generous.

Were covered in that Dept, im pretty much a 3L in law school (less than 1 month away) and work at a law firm.

 

[Linux23]

Scratch a lie, find a theif.

 

[TheTony]

As has been alluded to, regardless of if your folks accept the original offer (pending their own resolution to the roof) or if they reject the offer and relist, this business should be reported. I'd aggregate some documentation of the scam and provide it to the BBB, any licensing boards that the business operates under as well as the state attorney general.

It may be a good idea to for your folks to contact a real estate or consumer advocacy attorney....EDIT: sounds like you have that covered...

 

[mryellow2]

Like others have said in this thread, string 'em up before they victimize someone else!

 

[Toasthead]

my god 32k for a roof? Even in CA thats horesh!t. I would have run that guy right out of my house.

 

[MaxDSP]

Ill throw my useless 2 cents in and say report their sorry ass to the BBB/law enforcement and/or report them to the media. The news media would LOOOOOOVE a story like this.

 

[Maetryx]

I had my roof renovated for 1/10th of that.

 

[aphex]

Don't worry, they will be reported to all the applicable agencies and consumer protection hotlines.

I'll keep this updated as i learn more.