Now how did the parents allow their kids to do this? Please explain. Also show me the comments you made in many other threads where killers were kids and you called for the parents to be charged. Just curious?
Hypocrisy is not a thoughtful argument; and CoW's statement was a reasonable one.
I could see parents being held criminally negligent in their rearing of thugs, yabos, and violent racist rednecks. It would have to be judge on a case-by-case basis; but more often than not, dysfunctional behavior ont he part of the child is directly related to dysfunctional behavior on the part of the parent.
Not to say that a parent can control a 15 year old; but rather that without overt attempts to help a clearly troubled youth, there is a strong degree of criminal negligence.
Geo: If you want to know what you are like look at who your friends are. Classy is acting like a nit-wit and needed to be called out on it. I suggest that, in the interest of the best possible discourse, you free yourself to call-to-task folks on your side when they provide what can I can only be describe as "half witted emotional knee-jerk reactions". I'm not saying that you should take this on as an obligation, I'm just suggesting you feel free to disagree with people "on your side" or even being "attacked by idiots on the other side" when those folks that ascribe to your ideals are off-base.
As you said, and I 100% agree, the caveat that allows for honest discourse is this:
Provided of course, the person holding it is willing to set it aside if it were to be truly disproved. As should always be the case.
When something contrary to this becomes obvious I think it's important that we shut down argumentation that I would call "ideologically driven asshattery"