UN talks fail to break impasse on Iraq Self-Rule

CADsortaGUY

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failed to break the impasse over France's insistence that Iraq's transition to self-rule be overseen by the United Nations

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France is seeking the immediate establishment of an Iraqi interim government that would report to the Security Council, not to the occupation authority, and it also wants the Security Council to oversee a process of writing a constitution by the end of this year and holding elections next spring.

Mr. Powell said the American proposal to have the 25-member Iraqi Governing Council report back to the Security Council on its own timetable for self-government had "received positive responses from everyone."

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Mr. Annan called the meeting today and said it had been constructive.

He characterized the session as "a very good meeting" that would lead eventually to a unified approach on Iraq. He said it was not a matter of getting the United Nations to exercise sovereignty in Iraq but of the United Nations helping Iraq exercise its own sovereignty.

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Mr. Pachachi, in an interview, said after meeting with Mr. Powell that the differences among Security Council members could be bridged. But he said the French demand that an Iraqi interim government take over sovereignty in a month "is a little too optimistic."

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Diplomats involved in the negotiations today said there might be some way of bridging the difference between France and the United States. They said that, in contrast to the dispute before the war in Iraq, Germany and Russia were trying to serve as mediators.

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...there was an emerging consensus that France's demand for a complete United Nations takeover was unrealistic ? in part because the United Nations was not eager to assume the job.

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Quite an interesting read on what it's going to take to get the UN, US, and France to agree. There are more articles out there on this "summit" type meeting but this one painted a good overall picture(IMO).

CkG
 

Gaard

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Sounds like the process we go thru when buying a car. Hopefully, we can meet somewhere in the middle soon.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Gaard
Sounds like the process we go thru when buying a car. Hopefully, we can meet somewhere in the middle soon.

Yeah, In keeping with your car sales angle - we are now in the finance office but are quibbling over the "rust proofing" and "extended warrantee" costs;)

Lets hope that the UN's "third baseman"(France) doesn't ruin the deal;):D

CkG
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Gaard
Sounds like the process we go thru when buying a car. Hopefully, we can meet somewhere in the middle soon.

Yeah, In keeping with your car sales angle - we are now in the finance office but are quibbling over the "rust proofing" and "extended warrantee" costs;)

Lets hope that the UN's "third baseman"(France) doesn't ruin the deal;):D

CkG

Sounds like you're at a Chrysler dealership there ;) I'm in and out of the Honda dealer in under an hr @ $300 over invoice. Last 3 cars. :D

Agreed that France seems to pride themselves in being the 'chaos factor' lately. Let's just hope everyone keeps their cool.
 

MovingTarget

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Gaard
Sounds like the process we go thru when buying a car. Hopefully, we can meet somewhere in the middle soon.

Yeah, In keeping with your car sales angle - we are now in the finance office but are quibbling over the "rust proofing" and "extended warrantee" costs;)

Lets hope that the UN's "third baseman"(France) doesn't ruin the deal;):D

CkG

Sounds like you're at a Chrysler dealership there ;) I'm in and out of the Honda dealer in under an hr @ $300 over invoice. Last 3 cars. :D

Agreed that France seems to pride themselves in being the 'chaos factor' lately. Let's just hope everyone keeps their cool.

I agree also with everything said here, but i'll save the import vs. domestic debate for OT. :)
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Gaard
Sounds like the process we go thru when buying a car. Hopefully, we can meet somewhere in the middle soon.

Yeah, In keeping with your car sales angle - we are now in the finance office but are quibbling over the "rust proofing" and "extended warrantee" costs;)

Lets hope that the UN's "third baseman"(France) doesn't ruin the deal;):D

CkG

Sounds like you're at a Chrysler dealership there ;) I'm in and out of the Honda dealer in under an hr @ $300 over invoice. Last 3 cars. :D

Agreed that France seems to pride themselves in being the 'chaos factor' lately. Let's just hope everyone keeps their cool.

I agree also with everything said here, but i'll save the import vs. domestic debate for OT. :)

Nah - I'll set him straight;). I worked for a Toyota dealership. 300 over is for amateurs;) Plus I believe that the Toyota Camry(at the time I was selling them) was the most american made car on the market - most american made parts and labor.:)

Now - I'm glad you agree with me DealMonkey....on the France/UN/US situation. Hopefully Russia and Germany can show their comrades the way.;)

CkG
 

magomago

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Gaard
Sounds like the process we go thru when buying a car. Hopefully, we can meet somewhere in the middle soon.

Yeah, In keeping with your car sales angle - we are now in the finance office but are quibbling over the "rust proofing" and "extended warrantee" costs;)

Lets hope that the UN's "third baseman"(France) doesn't ruin the deal;):D

CkG

Sounds like you're at a Chrysler dealership there ;) I'm in and out of the Honda dealer in under an hr @ $300 over invoice. Last 3 cars. :D

Agreed that France seems to pride themselves in being the 'chaos factor' lately. Let's just hope everyone keeps their cool.

I agree also with everything said here, but i'll save the import vs. domestic debate for OT. :)

Nah - I'll set him straight;). I worked for a Toyota dealership. 300 over is for amateurs;) Plus I believe that the Toyota Camry(at the time I was selling them) was the most american made car on the market - most american made parts and labor.:)

Now - I'm glad you agree with me DealMonkey....on the France/UN/US situation. Hopefully Russia and Germany can show their comrades the way.;)

CkG

It is still Japanese Engineering ;) If we start building the same Chrylsers in a plant in Japan that doesn't mean reliability is going to go up ;)
 

phillyTIM

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Payback is hell, isn't it? Bush wants his cake and eat it too? That doesn't happen.

He stuck his middle finger up at the UN earliers this year, and they aren't going to turn around and throw their economies and troops down the drain toward Bush's Regime and how badly it treated the UN & it's security council members.

Bush made his deathbed, and he will lay in it and die.