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kp1126

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<< All that remained between war and peace was the fanatical and kamikaze like resistance of the Japanese people and their army of over 2,500,000. In spite of the repeated warnings to surrender and that the alternative "was complete and utter destruction," Japan refused to surrender and continued to fight. A mainland invasion would have cost an additional 87,500 casualties. Assuming 30 percent of those would have been deaths (based on a comparison of Bernstein's casualty rate and McCullough's death rate), there would have been a additional loss of 26,250 American lives, and by the 22 to 1 ration, a loss of 577,500 Japanese lives. Thus, in both Japanese and American lives, the combination of invasions of Kyushu and Honshu would have cost over 1.5 million lives.

By 1946 the two bombs caused the death of as many as 240,000 Japanese citizens.
It looks like that act of American Barbarism saved about 1.25 MILLION people.
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by the times the bombs were dropped, Japan was not only fighting freedom fighters and the U.S. throughout Asia, but Russia was really starting to pound on them as well. They were begging for mercy, but of course the U.S. didn't give a sh!t. Oh yea, 1.25 million lives were not saved. I think close to that many ended up dying of the bombs themselves and the after effects of radiation....of course the U.S. didn't know that was going to happen right? :p

Anyways, Japan deserved it anyways. They deserve it again too....cuz they still deny the Rape of Nanking ever happened.
 

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kp1126
They were begging for mercy, but of course the U.S. didn't give a sh!t.

Do you have a reference that they were "begging" for mercy?

Are you aware that after the Emperor stated his wish that the war was to end that factions in the military tried to stage a coup so they could keep on fighting?

One last question. What was keeping the Japanese from simply saying we surrender?
 

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I believe Japan was bugging Russia to talk to the U.S. for them. I believe the arguments were that the U.S. wanted to get Japan to surrender before Russia invaded Japan. That would have resulted in a East/West Germany of Asia. I believe this quoted on some other HISTORY forums that I read. I'll try to get more info.
 

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It's never simple unless you close your eyes and make it so, to avoid having to think.


To me it only proves the lack of substance of the argument of some people.

Maybe the point is that "we" are not holier than "thou". To me the insubstantial arguments are the ones trying to claim one side is more just than the other.