Ultra-120 Extreme just got dropped off - major problem?

[Yourself]

graysky-

Any issues with the fact that you can rotate the entire heatsink once it's installed? It bugged me at first, but my temps are good, so I will just ignore it....


Self

 

[graysky]

Originally posted by: YourselfAny issues with the fact that you can rotate the entire heatsink once it's installed? It bugged me at first, but my temps are good, so I will just ignore it....

I don't know what you mean by 'rotate the entire heatsink once it's installed.' When it's properly secured, it really doesn't move.

 

[Yourself]

Check gigem's post about 5 up from this one and here is a quote from Anandtech review of the retail kit:

The new socket 775 adapter is certainly an improvement over the older design in terms of convenience, but we still have one complaint. The old adapter held the cooler firmly in place on socket 775, while the new adapter allows the cooler to be turned a bit after mounting, whether intentional or accidental. Buyers will be perfectly happy with the eXtreme's mounting and performance, but the 775 bracket could be improved further with wider metal on one of the blades that secures the cooler so it won't be able to turn. In this aspect the AM2 adapter is really sturdier, since the heatpipe tower is held rigidly in place on socket AM2 after mounting.

Anandtech Ultra-120 Extreme review

Like I said since my temps are good I will just go with it... 😀

 

[graysky]

Wow, mine is pretty tight, but I can wiggle it. I'm unwilling to see just how far it goes 🙂

 

[eternitykh]

oooh, nice temps after lapping cpu too!!, and what a difference it made after the second time! now u make me wonder if i did mine all the way yet.... im tempted to remove it and relap it, but i think im just being too anal perfect about it right now....

 

[graysky]

Well, what are you temps? You can totally do the marker test on it without too much effort.

 

[eternitykh]

well, room temperature has risen quite a bit since local area tempurature has gone up 10~15 degrees F at night compared to 2 weeks ago, during the day it's about 20 degrees F hotter compared to 2 weeks ago.

all temps are taken with current setup which is e4300 @ 3.4 with 1.55v, yes i know that's a bit high, but that's the only way i can push this chip, maybe i got a bad one?

so as of right now, my idle temps are (in C):

Core 0: (30 in speedfan, 45 in coretemp)
Core 1: (30 in speedfan, 45 in coretemp)

during orthos load (blend) (in C):

Core 0: (56 in speedfan, 70 in coretemp)
Core 1: (57 in speedfan, 71 in coretemp)

usually the temps are about 5 degrees C lower, but like i said, local temps has gone way up these past 2 weeks.
and earlier today, i ran my cpu "factory" specs (i let my mobo set all the clocks and voltages, which was labeled "standard" (asus p5b-e)) which is a 1.8 with whatever voltage my motherboard ran it at, just to take some temps with no OC.

and the results were:

idle:

Core 0: (20 in speedfan, 35 in coretemp)
Core 1: (20 in speedfan, 35 in coretemp)

orthos load:

Core 0: (35 in speedfan, 49 in coretemp)
Core 1: (35 in speedfan, 50 in coretemp)

what do you think?

 

[domski]

I know this is a little off-topic, but my Ulta-120 extreme arrived yesterday, and I discovered (at almost exactly the same time the Anandtech retail review was published) that it does not come with the Socket-939 adapter. If I had known the S939 adapter would not be there, I probably would not have purchased the heatsink. But unfortunately, I pre-ordered it a long time ago, when it looked like the Ultra-120 extreme would be supplied with the same hardware as the regular Ultra-120.

So anyway, I was wondering if anyone out there might have a Ultra-120, and not be using the S939 adapter. I would be happy to buy it off you for a nominal fee, and pay any postage etc.

Pretty please... 😀

XOX DOM

P.S. Oh, and for what it's worth, I checked the flatness of the base of my Ulta-120 extreme: it is *way* off being planar. Parallel to the heatpipes, a straight edge lies perfectly flat on the base, but across the heatpipes, it is noticably convex. I took a couple of photos, but I can't see how to attach an image. 🙁

 

[graysky]

Since you have a 4300, I'm guessing you don't care since probably by the time it burns out, you can replace it for cheap. You do realize that you're doing a nearly 90 % O/C right? In general, anything over 65 in TAT is to be avoided if you want the keep the chip for a long time. They will function up to 85 however. Given that high vcore, I think they're reasonable. If you want lower temps, I'd suggest lowering your O/C. What are they temps @ 3.0 GHz?

 

[graysky]

Originally posted by: domski
P.S. Oh, and for what it's worth, I checked the flatness of the base of my Ulta-120 extreme: it is *way* off being planar. Parallel to the heatpipes, a straight edge lies perfectly flat on the base, but across the heatpipes, it is noticably convex. I took a couple of photos, but I can't see how to attach an image. 🙁

You do images as links. Use the "http" button up to and paste the http://link.to.pic in first, then some text describing the pic. Are you planning to lap the HS to flatten it out like I did to mine?

 

[eternitykh]

Originally posted by: graysky
Since you have a 4300, I'm guessing you don't care since probably by the time it burns out, you can replace it for cheap. You do realize that you're doing a nearly 90 % O/C right? In general, anything over 65 in TAT is to be avoided if you want the keep the chip for a long time. They will function up to 85 however. Given that high vcore, I think they're reasonable. If you want lower temps, I'd suggest lowering your O/C. What are they temps @ 3.0 GHz?

mmm, im too lazy to find the optimal voltage to test 3.0 right now haha, but i can imagine temps drop roughly 2 degrees or so, as i will lower vcore to ?probably? 1.52v or 1.53v, not sure. but ya the chip i have doesn't like to post or run properly with low voltages when OC'd. i notice the e6xxx or the q chips dont have this problem tho, they can do a moderate/high oc with just 1.45v

 

[domski]

Ok, thanks Graysky. I uploaded a couple of photos to ImageShack.

Here's one showing the terrible convexity perpendicular to the the heatpipes: perpendicular

Here's another showing that parallel to the heatpipes, the base is pretty much flat: parallel

The base is so far from being flat that I would expect the cooling performance to be seriously and dramatically compromised. So unless I return the heatsink, my only option is to do some sort of lapping. Although I'm skeptical about how flat I can get it without proper machine tools. Might be fun to do some sort of before and after performance measurements, though. (But I still need to solve the problem of how to mount the damn thing on a socket-939! 🙂 )

 

[graysky]

@domski - wow dude, looks like mine did. I did you check out the TR website? They show a $4 kit you need.

 

[domski]

Thanks, Graysky. Checked out that mounting bracket on the Thermalright website. That's exactly what I need. (Although I already have the sprung screws.)

Searched every single website listed on the "where to buy" section of Thermalright's site. Nobody has the bracket in stock, or will let me order it.
Also tried to contact Thermalright's customer support, but they haven't replied... 🙁

I figure I'm going to have to try to construct my own. Sigh. What a PITA!

 

[graysky]

Yeah... I didn't look very hard but I'm assuming that 2 screw bracket uses the 4 screw backplate?