ULI Chipset

[entropy1982]

Can somone please tell me what this ULI chipset will allow?

Will you be able to put in the 939 or the 940 if you want?

 

[Rock Hydra]

My main concern is that these ULI based boards will ship in volume. I really hope I don't have to wait around long for this chipset to come out. I want to preserve AGP 6800 and be able to get an Athlon 64 x2 as well.

 

[Agamar]

Same here. I got my 6800 Ultra OC AGP about 6 months ago, and don't feel like upgrading just yet. A nice board with both PCIE and AGP would be great.

 

[Braveheart77]

The new ULI chipset will allow you to connect either PCI-E, AGP, PCI or even all of them at the same time. Some PCI-E motherboards actually have an AGP-like port sometimes called AGI or AGR, but that's not a native AGP sollution because they drive AGP signals through the old PCI bus, harming your AGP board perfornamce seriously. What ULI is gonna do with this new chipset is connect the PCI-E to the northbridge, and a TRUE AGP and PCI buses to the south bridge in a unique design, thus allowing you to retain you actual AGP card at full power and give you the option to switch to PCI-E when you can.

 

[imported_Kensai]

Originally posted by: Braveheart77
The new ULI chipset will allow you to connect either PCI-E, AGP, PCI or even all of them at the same time. Some PCI-E motherboards actually have an AGP-like port sometimes called AGI or AGR, but that's not a native AGP sollution because they drive AGP signals through the old PCI bus, harming your AGP board perfornamce seriously. What ULI is gonna do with this new chipset is connect the PCI-E to the northbridge, and a TRUE AGP and PCI buses to the south bridge in a unique design, thus allowing you to retain you actual AGP card at full power and give you the option to switch to PCI-E when you can.

Take note that the MSI K8N Neo3-F has the "AGR" slot tagged onto a PCI-E x2 bus.

 

[Peter]

... which will still just give it 3.3V PCI, with all the compatibility quibbles with newer AGP cards (that don't support 3.3V signalling anymore).

Unless it's a ULi M1695/M1567 chipset for AMD K8, or a VIA PT880pro chipset for Intel P4, there ain't no true AGP alongside PCIE graphics. Not even electrically correct, without even looking at performance issues.

 

[Braveheart77]

yes kensay, you're wright. but since I wasn't able to find a review of that 754 mobo I can't comment on that. anyway you must use any of the MSI recommended vga cards or else pray for it to work.
new ULI chipset will offer true AGP slot. (by the way anandtech has a review of the reference ULI board and paired with Geforce 6800U PCI-e and AGP versions, the AGP one performed better than the PCI-e counterpart in many tests. http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2471)