UK's foils terror plot

[Fern]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
-snip-
Last terrorist attack we had in the UK (which is what this thread is about) was white Christians killing white Christians.

What event was that?

Seriously, I don't think I ever heard of it (or at least don't remember now).

TIA

Fern

 

[cubeless]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Didn?t catch the devil?s advocacy of my last post eh?

So while we?re on this topic, why should Islam be treated equally when it is responsible for over 90% of terrorist attacks/plans against us? I?m all for dealing with it harshly and I applaud them for stopping another Islamic terrorist cell, but as I said above, the government enforces an equal treatment when there is anything but equality.

You think Britain?s government is spending equal resources monitoring Christian, Catholic, Buddhist, or Hindu groups COMBINED as it does monitoring Islam? They do profiling, and it gets the job done because our killers have a common profile.

So then why aren?t we allowed to call a spade a spade, why aren?t we allowed to enact legislation dealing with this reality? Islamic extremists need to be shut down and removed from our land, not protected under the banner of religion. Each specific terror cell we bust is only the tip of the iceberg, we need to deal with the entire iceberg and not just the ones dumb enough to get caught.

hey, he is fun to pet...

and we aren't talking about spades here, we're talking about beloved patriot islamic prickheads... and we could enact legislation, but choose not to because of the contributions to the formation of america by the islamic religion...

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
-snip-
Last terrorist attack we had in the UK (which is what this thread is about) was white Christians killing white Christians.

What event was that?

Seriously, I don't think I ever heard of it (or at least don't remember now).

TIA

Fern

It was by the Real Irish Republican Army or the RIRA for short, it was on march the 7th on the Massereene Barracks, i'd dig up a link but you'll have no hard time finding it i'm sure.

I do know that the RIRA is designated a terrorist organisation both in the US and the UK and have been for more than ten years.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: OCguy
Anyone who believes terrorism exists probably clings to thier guns at night and hides under the bed.

Are YOU afraid of the Jihadi boogyman that was made up by Cheney and Bu$h and Rove?

It's not that they aren't real its that their military capabilities were severely overblown.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
You would think that people that interact with classified material would know enough to keep it protected in a folder and a coversheet

Why do you think I can't get Top Secret clearance?

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Originally posted by: OCguy
Anyone who believes terrorism exists probably clings to thier guns at night and hides under the bed.

Are YOU afraid of the Jihadi boogyman that was made up by Cheney and Bu$h and Rove?

It's not that they aren't real its that their military capabilities were severely overblown.

It would take a few grams of two easily store bought chemicals and a lot of high nitrogen fertilizer to blow half your neighbourhood to kingdom come.

You don't need an army, all you need is dedication and one man can be plenty.

 

[Duwelon]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: AreaCode707

Originally posted by: OCguy
Anyone who believes terrorism exists probably clings to thier guns at night and hides under the bed.

Are YOU afraid of the Jihadi boogyman that was made up by Cheney and Bu$h and Rove?

Anyone who believes terrorism EXISTS? It exists, beyond the shadow of a doubt.

It exists in Rwanda where children are dragged from their homes, forced to kill their families and are drafted into armies. It exists in countries where suicide bombers destroy buses full of innocents. It exists where planes fly into buildings and subways are blown up. It exists where air raids and missiles destroy towns with no military installations.

Terrorism exists and it is an affront to those killed to try to deny it. I won't invoke Godwin's Law, but seriously... exists?

Home Schooled huh?

Honestly, while I knew he was being sarcastic, what he said isn't that much of an exaggeration from what the left is willing to believe.

And seriously, anyone who thinks you can get a better education in a public school shithole over a good home schooling parent is deluded and/or just wants to see kids indoctrinated into their own brand.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Originally posted by: OCguy
Anyone who believes terrorism exists probably clings to thier guns at night and hides under the bed.

Are YOU afraid of the Jihadi boogyman that was made up by Cheney and Bu$h and Rove?

It's not that they aren't real its that their military capabilities were severely overblown.

It would take a few grams of two easily store bought chemicals and a lot of high nitrogen fertilizer to blow half your neighbourhood to kingdom come.

You don't need an army, all you need is dedication and one man can be plenty.

Which is why we needed hundreds of thousands of troops to invade other countries right? :roll:

EDIT: WRT military action, all we needed were black ops/special forces .

 

[CanOWorms]

It's scary that a bunch of incompetent buffoons who publicly show important documents are in power. These are the people who will have all the personal information of the peasants collected through all the privacy-invading programs that the UK is world famous for.

Unfortunately, with the UK's history of bumbling anti-terrorism activities (such as the execution of the innocent Brazilian in the subway and the subsequent cover-up) and the fact that the suspects are most likely declared "undesirables", it's going to be difficult. I hope that another country or international organization steps in before the suspects are tortured or executed. They can't even be given a fair trial there.

 

[theflyingpig]

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Which is why we needed hundreds of thousands of troops to invade other countries right? :roll:

EDIT: WRT military action, all we needed were black ops/special forces .

You are a fool. You know nothing of the ways of war. Educate yourself.

 

[spacejamz]

Originally posted by: cubeless

Originally posted by: spacejamz
that was either one sweet @ss lens or really huge fonts on the document if they could read the documents from a picture...

my d90 and 18-105 vr can do a pretty good job of that from 20' away... my kid tried it after we saw this last night on cnn... that copper over there will have no problem pooping for a long time and will probbly never be seen without a briefcase ever again...

u gonna post your pics of this???

 

[SP33Demon]

What kind of idiot carries classified information out in the open? He should have been fired on the spot.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: Duwelon
Honestly, while I knew he was being sarcastic, what he said isn't that much of an exaggeration from what the left is willing to believe.

And seriously, anyone who thinks you can get a better education in a public school shithole over a good home schooling parent is deluded and/or just wants to see kids indoctrinated into their own brand.

Oh the irony!

 

[palehorse]

Excellent work Brits! :thumbsup:

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Originally posted by: OCguy
Anyone who believes terrorism exists probably clings to thier guns at night and hides under the bed.

Are YOU afraid of the Jihadi boogyman that was made up by Cheney and Bu$h and Rove?

It's not that they aren't real its that their military capabilities were severely overblown.

It would take a few grams of two easily store bought chemicals and a lot of high nitrogen fertilizer to blow half your neighbourhood to kingdom come.

You don't need an army, all you need is dedication and one man can be plenty.

Which is why we needed hundreds of thousands of troops to invade other countries right? :roll:

EDIT: WRT military action, all we needed were black ops/special forces .

Nice job shooting down that strawman you stupid twat.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Duwelon

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: AreaCode707

Originally posted by: OCguy
Anyone who believes terrorism exists probably clings to thier guns at night and hides under the bed.

Are YOU afraid of the Jihadi boogyman that was made up by Cheney and Bu$h and Rove?

Anyone who believes terrorism EXISTS? It exists, beyond the shadow of a doubt.

It exists in Rwanda where children are dragged from their homes, forced to kill their families and are drafted into armies. It exists in countries where suicide bombers destroy buses full of innocents. It exists where planes fly into buildings and subways are blown up. It exists where air raids and missiles destroy towns with no military installations.

Terrorism exists and it is an affront to those killed to try to deny it. I won't invoke Godwin's Law, but seriously... exists?

Home Schooled huh?

Honestly, while I knew he was being sarcastic, what he said isn't that much of an exaggeration from what the left is willing to believe.

And seriously, anyone who thinks you can get a better education in a public school shithole over a good home schooling parent is deluded and/or just wants to see kids indoctrinated into their own brand.

Well, we all know about your education from the various evolution threads so i'd say your home schooling (lemme guess, five hours of prayers and talking in tounges?) has failed so miserably that i'm surprised you even managed to get on the internet.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: Duwelon

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: AreaCode707

Originally posted by: OCguy
Anyone who believes terrorism exists probably clings to thier guns at night and hides under the bed.

Are YOU afraid of the Jihadi boogyman that was made up by Cheney and Bu$h and Rove?

Anyone who believes terrorism EXISTS? It exists, beyond the shadow of a doubt.

It exists in Rwanda where children are dragged from their homes, forced to kill their families and are drafted into armies. It exists in countries where suicide bombers destroy buses full of innocents. It exists where planes fly into buildings and subways are blown up. It exists where air raids and missiles destroy towns with no military installations.

Terrorism exists and it is an affront to those killed to try to deny it. I won't invoke Godwin's Law, but seriously... exists?

Home Schooled huh?

Honestly, while I knew he was being sarcastic, what he said isn't that much of an exaggeration from what the left is willing to believe.

And seriously, anyone who thinks you can get a better education in a public school shithole over a good home schooling parent is deluded and/or just wants to see kids indoctrinated into their own brand.

I figured a home school comment would rattle a few wingnuts loose from the woodwork. Develop kids in isolation and they only operate well in isolation. Nothing like having a 15 year old who should be full of life and piss and vinegar acting like a bitter old man.

 

[soulcougher73]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Sounds like racial or religious profiling. The average citizen would be arrested for hate crimes if they behaved like their own government.

Do you think if 9-11 had been done by white male jehova witness midgets in their early twenties, that we should just let the next "white male jehova witness midgets in their early twenties" walk onto a plane without searching them? There is nothing wrong with profiling.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: soulcougher73

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Sounds like racial or religious profiling. The average citizen would be arrested for hate crimes if they behaved like their own government.

Do you think if 9-11 had been done by white male jehova witness midgets in their early twenties, that we should just let the next "white male jehova witness midgets in their early twenties" walk onto a plane without searching them? There is nothing wrong with profiling.

You don't think your enemy KNOWS you are profiling?

This is a classical error of judgement, what you SHOULD be looking for is anything suspicious, not what color or religion people are.

And it really has gone to extremes in the US, people with my name have a hell of a time getting out of there because of my last name which is Keltic and the RIRA is on the list of known terror organisations.

People with common FIRST names are even having trouble at the airports but if a fair skinned terrorist with the name of John Smith were to get onboard no one would even bother to check him.

Think they will use fair skinned terrorists with a plain name? Of course they will.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Which is why we needed hundreds of thousands of troops to invade other countries right? :roll:

EDIT: WRT military action, all we needed were black ops/special forces .

You are a fool. You know nothing of the ways of war. Educate yourself.

Yeah we definitely needed those thousands of troops to hunt down camel riders conceiving plans next to a fire in a cave. :roll:

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Originally posted by: OCguy
Anyone who believes terrorism exists probably clings to thier guns at night and hides under the bed.

Are YOU afraid of the Jihadi boogyman that was made up by Cheney and Bu$h and Rove?

It's not that they aren't real its that their military capabilities were severely overblown.

It would take a few grams of two easily store bought chemicals and a lot of high nitrogen fertilizer to blow half your neighbourhood to kingdom come.

You don't need an army, all you need is dedication and one man can be plenty.

Which is why we needed hundreds of thousands of troops to invade other countries right? :roll:

EDIT: WRT military action, all we needed were black ops/special forces .

Nice job shooting down that strawman you stupid twat.

As usual you attack the person and not the argument.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Originally posted by: OCguy
Anyone who believes terrorism exists probably clings to thier guns at night and hides under the bed.

Are YOU afraid of the Jihadi boogyman that was made up by Cheney and Bu$h and Rove?

It's not that they aren't real its that their military capabilities were severely overblown.

It would take a few grams of two easily store bought chemicals and a lot of high nitrogen fertilizer to blow half your neighbourhood to kingdom come.

You don't need an army, all you need is dedication and one man can be plenty.

Which is why we needed hundreds of thousands of troops to invade other countries right? :roll:

EDIT: WRT military action, all we needed were black ops/special forces .

Nice job shooting down that strawman you stupid twat.

As usual you attack the person and not the argument.

What argument? You are arguing against a statement never made, make a proper reply and i'll reply to it.

You know full well that one men militias exist, you also know that to combat them it's more efficiant to use more men than one on one, at least i hope you do or didn't you even understand the argument made?

Either way, now you do so give a proper reply pusscake and i'll reply in kind.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield


What argument? You are arguing against a statement never made, make a proper reply and i'll reply to it.

You know full well that one men militias exist, you also know that to combat them it's more efficiant to use more men than one on one, at least i hope you do or didn't you even understand the argument made?

Either way, now you do so give a proper reply pusscake and i'll reply in kind.

lol youre a trip

Obvioulsy you think thousands of soldiers are better than black ops/special forces. I would like to know why you think that.

These "terrorists" are not traditional armies they are sparse small cells that only need the attention of the intelligence department and small forces to erradicate them. Searching cave to cave with thousands of soldiers, tanks or what have you, is a waste of taxpayer money, human lives and a waste of resources.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield


What argument? You are arguing against a statement never made, make a proper reply and i'll reply to it.

You know full well that one men militias exist, you also know that to combat them it's more efficiant to use more men than one on one, at least i hope you do or didn't you even understand the argument made?

Either way, now you do so give a proper reply pusscake and i'll reply in kind.

lol youre a trip

Obvioulsy you think thousands of soldiers are better than black ops/special forces. I would like to know why you think that.

These "terrorists" are not traditional armies they are sparse small cells that only need the attention of the intelligence department and small forces to erradicate them. Searching cave to cave with thousands of soldiers, tanks or what have you, is a waste of taxpayer money, human lives and a waste of resources.

Are you fucking daft? I asked you to make a proper argument against what i have said and you come back with more strawmen?

I SAID that they are not traditional armies, you can't argue against it by providing the same fucking argument...

The search is done by small teams, the regular troops are there to protect the areas they are driven from you fucking nutjob.

I've already explained this to you and you STILL don't get it? How fucking hard is it to read the posts you are replying to?

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Are you fucking daft? I asked you to make a proper argument against what i have said and you come back with more strawmen?

I SAID that they are not traditional armies, you can't argue against it by providing the same fucking argument...

The search is done by small teams, the regular troops are there to protect the areas they are driven from you fucking nutjob.

I've already explained this to you and you STILL don't get it? How fucking hard is it to read the posts you are replying to?

I see what you are saying now, my apologies. Although, that doesn't change your mental retardation in P&N, if any other member talked the shit you do to others they would have had the boot by now. You and I know why you are still here and there's nothing I can do about it. No one on this forum berates people like you do without retribution. Sad little fuck you are.