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Ukraine speeds up Iraq pullout

conjur

No Lifer
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WO...10/ukraine.pullout.ap/
KIEV, Ukraine (AP) -- President Leonid Kuchma has ordered the foreign and defense ministries to develop a plan for withdrawing Ukraine's troops from Iraq within the first half of the year, a statement from the president's office said.

Ukraine, whose 1,650 troops are the fourth-largest contingent in the U.S.-led military operation in Iraq, has previously expressed intentions to withdraw this year, but the order speeds up the apparent timetable.

The order came a day after eight Ukrainian soldiers died in an explosion at an ammunition dump in Iraq, which was reported as an accident rather than as the result of hostile action.

In all, 16 Ukrainian soldiers have died in Iraq,

"The situation in Iraq has deteriorated and as a consequence we lost our men," acting Defense Minister Oleksandr Kuzmuk was quoted as saying by the Interfax news agency after meeting with Kuchma, adding that the withdrawal could begin as early as March.

Although Kuchma is expected to leave office within days to be replaced by Viktor Yushchenko, the winner of last month's presidential elections according to preliminary results, the change of leadership is unlikely to affect Ukraine's policy on Iraq. Yushchenko has also promised a withdrawal.

His campaign manager, Oleksandr Zinchenko, said Monday that withdrawal was a difficult procedure, burdened with political, finance, military and diplomatic details, but stressed that the issue would be one of Yushchenko's top concerns.

"I can only say that the promise that ... Yushchenko made to the Ukrainian people would be kept," Interfax quoted him as saying.
I would imagine that Ukraine has many of its own problems to worry about than Bush's continue f-up in Iraq.
 
:thumbsup:

This was our unilateral war. We need to fight this alone.

If any troops die as a result of our actions over there, it should be our own.
 
"Viktor Yushchenko, the winner of last month's presidential elections according to preliminary results"....

Were they basing his win on {GASP} ... exit polls?!?!
 
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
"Viktor Yushchenko, the winner of last month's presidential elections according to preliminary results"....

Were they basing his win on {GASP} ... exit polls?!?!

it looks like. whats wrong with exit polls? i think you are acting like conservatives hate exit polls, but in reality we have no problem with them. they were just wrong when it counted, thats all.
 
Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
"Viktor Yushchenko, the winner of last month's presidential elections according to preliminary results"....

Were they basing his win on {GASP} ... exit polls?!?!

it looks like. whats wrong with exit polls? i think you are acting like conservatives hate exit polls, but in reality we have no problem with them. they were just wrong when it counted, thats all.

How convenient?
 
I was reading the Ukrainian press and was astounded at the rank of the eight Ukrainian victims (one woman among them): one lieutenant-colonel, three captains, three sergeants, the eight was a medical instructor (also a sergeant). What on earth were a lieutenant-colonel, a major and three captains doing there? The major was among the wounded.
 
What is so strange about that? AS far as I remember the Ukrainian army is draft-based which means that only officers are permanetly employed. On missions like this you send the most experienced and the the best trained soldiers you have ->officers.

It is the same in here in Sweden, we have a couple of small "real" fighting units which were most recently used in Afghanistan and Kongo (in Kongo there were also "regular" Peace keeping soldiers which are mostly employed for short periods of time, but they have of course all done their military service).
All members of these units are permanently employed by the army (hence they are all officers), my guess is that they normaly work as instructors etc (it is just a guess, these units are secret and even the names of the members are not known) and most of them are probably at least captains.
 
I thought it strange. Most of the wounded are privates and corporals. There are some new developments too: most of the Ukrainian/Russian observers appear to agree that this was not an accident, but a resistance operation. "Someone" called and said there was a large amount of hidden explosives. The Ukranians went to investigate, and suddently a bomb went off. Very similar to the incident awhile ago when "someone" called to report a gathering of extremists, and when the Iraqi police went to arrest them, the whole building was blown up over their heads.
 
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
"Viktor Yushchenko, the winner of last month's presidential elections according to preliminary results"....

Were they basing his win on {GASP} ... exit polls?!?!

it looks like. whats wrong with exit polls? i think you are acting like conservatives hate exit polls, but in reality we have no problem with them. they were just wrong when it counted, thats all.

How convenient?

whats that supposed to mean?
 
Originally posted by: fornax
I thought it strange. Most of the wounded are privates and corporals. There are some new developments too: most of the Ukrainian/Russian observers appear to agree that this was not an accident, but a resistance operation. "Someone" called and said there was a large amount of hidden explosives. The Ukranians went to investigate, and suddently a bomb went off. Very similar to the incident awhile ago when "someone" called to report a gathering of extremists, and when the Iraqi police went to arrest them, the whole building was blown up over their heads.
But..but...but....the insurgents are weak. The forces of good are defeating them. The insurgents surely are not very intelligent.
 
Ukraine troops to exit Iraq by end of year
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2005-03-31-ukraine-iraq_x.htm
President Viktor Yushchenko confirmed Thursday that Ukraine's troops will leave Iraq by the end of the year.

"It will be by mid-October, but I don't exclude that this date can be changed a little. But for sure our troops will leave Iraq this year," Yushchenko said at a briefing for foreign journalists ahead of his trip to the United States that begins Sunday.
 
They should pull out too. And Blair should be sent packing. This was Bush and Co's war. They sold Blair a bill of goods, and he should pay with his job and the Brits should pull out. The American military (among other nitwits, IMO) voted Bush in, they should be the ones putting their lives on the line.
 
Originally posted by: arsbanned
They should pull out too. And Blair should be sent packing. This was Bush and Co's war. They sold Blair a bill of goods, and he should pay with his job and the Brits should pull out. The American military (among other nitwits, IMO) voted Bush in, they should be the ones putting their lives on the line.

But Blair will probably be staying and was pushing for the war as well.

What about the Australians?

I don't like giving anyone a free pass.
 
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