UK Muslim Mosques

[mchammer]

Originally posted by: irishScott

Originally posted by: mchammer
Calm down everyone, I would not be 100% positve at this point that these people are bent on world domination.

Not all of them no, but according to some stat's I've read online about 10% of Muslims believe that 9/11, jihad, killing innocents, the works is justified. Seems like a relativly small number, but on the world scale thats almost 160,000,000 people :shocked:

That may be a fact, the question is how to interpret that fact. Some people here are displaying a tendency to skip all of that analysis and start beating the drum for war.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: junkiefp
This makes me sick...

Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MSFbhIG-sk
Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoi5DWt3b0w
Part 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_TjzCcTkE8

This report is a generalization of course, a minority (one would hope), but the fact that these EXTREME minorities are allowed to exist to this degree and that a perfectage of the islam religon is totally apathetic to stopping them is kinda disappointing.

When there is an extremist violent Christian or Catholic cult in the USA or Canada, and we know what they're going to do, the FBI, RCMP, ATF and whatever other authorities exist, take them down before they have a chance to do anything.

I'm a huge fan of 'if you don't like it, leave'. If you don't like the non-muslim way of life, go back to where you came from because obviously you have no purpose here.

You're naive if you think these are extreme minorities.

 

[CalvinHobbs]

well it's not just in the Uk, here where i live that's what they teach their kids...and guess what, the drug barrons are muslim here. all of them are rich btw, not all of them are alike, some are nice people but some are real extremists...

 

[IAteYourMother]

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: irishScott

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: redly1

Originally posted by: RyanSengara
I'm a huge fan of 'if you don't like it, leave'. If you don't like the non-muslim way of life, go back to where you came from because obviously you have no purpose here.

How do you acheive world domination by leaving. Hate to break it to you, but that's where this is all headed. I would put money on the two dominant cultures in the world in the year 2100 being Muslim and Chinese. Ever notice the inroads they have made into western countries? I rarely see a muslim or Chinese family without at least 3 kids, usually many more.

I think before it reaches this point with the middle east there will be war.

The only reason the middle east is anything is oil. Otherwise it'd be an extension of most of Africa and nothing existent on the world stage. It may take a century, but once oil runs out, the middle east will just regress even further.

Don't you guys understand that the nation you import the most amount of oil from is Canada?

Unfortunately the Arabs have been quite smart, they've taken this money and invested it in technology, infrastructure and truly unique ideas, though the prosperity will recede they have backup insdustries now to fall back on.

I thought it was venezuela. oops.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: Stumps
we have the same sort of things happening here in Australia....but instead of doing something about it our government plays it down to win votes with the muslim community...pathetic :|

welcome to america, where no politician addresses a critical issue for the sake or receiving votes!:| this is why america will fail 🙁

 

[junkiefp]

Good discussion people. Keep it up

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: Stumps
we have the same sort of things happening here in Australia....but instead of doing something about it our government plays it down to win votes with the muslim community...pathetic :|

welcome to america, where no politician addresses a critical issue for the sake or receiving votes!:| this is why america will fail 🙁

This is actually one area that America will not fail - or will be the last to fail in. The approach to multiculturalism in Canada, the U.K. and Australia is all extremely similar: We tend to bend over backwards to welcome immigrants and the culture and values they bring with them (good), but don't bother at all to insist that they in turn accept the culture and values we already have here (bad). This is opposed to the American system, which to me heavily stresses, "You're American first, and everything else second."

I have some sympathy for the people of the U.K. dealing with this issue, because ease of immigration is a major factor and inter-European travel is cake.

Is it time to panic yet? Depends on what actions you'd take in your panicked state, but things are getting pretty alarming. According to a comprehensive survey:

- 50% of British Muslims say that 9/11 was a conspiracy by the American and Israeli governments.
- When asked, "Is Britain my country or their country?" one in four say it is not their own.
- Thirty percent of British Muslims would prefer to live under Sharia (Islamic religious) law than under British law. Half of those who express a preference for living under Sharia law say that, given the choice, they would move to a country governed by these laws.
- Twenty-eight percent dream of the U.K. becoming a fundamentalist Islamic state, which comports with last year's Daily Telegraph newspaper survey that found one-third of British Muslims believe Western society is decadent and immoral and that Muslims should seek to end it.
- Seventy-eight percent support punishment for the journalists who earlier this year published cartoons featuring the Prophet Mohammed.
- Sixty-eight percent support arrest and prosecution for those British people who "insult Islam."
- When asked if free speech should be protected, even if it offends religious groups, 62% of British Muslims say it should not be.

The question is what to do about that. Watching France and Germany and their overreaction is black comedy, but unhelpful in the end.

 

[loic2003]

10% might support 9/11, jihad and all that, but I don't think that means 90% are firmly against. I'm still yet to see an islamic anti-terror demonstration, but I have seen many where they are against the country that supports them (eg the london demonstration where they were holding signs saying "UK: your 9/11 is coming!" etc.). We're in the situation where they can pour into a western country with very few restrictions, but have a whole pack of 'race cards' that they can play when anything doesn't go their way. When I was in aus there was a story where an imam said that 99% or rapes of women were the fault of women because it is they who have the power of seduction and should instead be covered up.

What the hell is going on where the majority of a country's population feels strongly about something, yet the goverment does pretty much the opposite. Isn't the government supposed to represent the people? At least aus has *some* restrictions on who can legaly enter the country permanently which just isn't existant in europe. There are over *6 million* legal muslims in france, and a shïtload of illegals.

 

[spidey07]

There was something said about how you can't be a practicing Nazi in Germany or UK. If found out you lose your citizenship, possibly deported.

Can this not be done here? If you are found practicing and preaching facism and inciting violence can they not just be stripped of citizenship and deported? Could definately make a dent in the problem.