UK launches massive, one-year program to archive every email

[AnonymouseUser]

NWO :thumbsdown:

 

[TruePaige]

I'll write more on this evil when it's...not 2 AM

 

[StinkyPinky]

You do realize this will all be archived? And then the UK will allow the USA access to the data, being strong allies and all.

Game over man. Welcome to the New World Order.

 

[Colt45]

encryption time. and servers in russia. lol.

 

[Fayd]

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
How is it possible that people anywhere would stand for this? Would we allow this to happen if a similar program were initiated in the US? What would we do to stop it?

The UK was the first country to make mainstream use of cameras on every corner, red lights and highways. Guess which country is now making use of cameras on every corner, red light and highway?

If this programme is successful in the EU, then I predict within 5 years they will try to implement it here.

I heard recently that they were going to start removing some of them. Can't remember where or why.

probably maintenance and upkeep on them was so bad that it got too expensive.

(read: people keep shooting at them.)

 

[Fayd]

btw, who's gonna sort through all that..shit.

 

[Kirby]

Originally posted by: Fayd
btw, who's gonna sort through all that..shit.

Everyone needs to start sending at least 50 emails a day, with the text being War and Peace. Also the largest email attachment.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: Fayd
btw, who's gonna sort through all that..shit.

Everyone needs to start sending at least 50 emails a day, with the text being War and Peace. Also the largest email attachment.

Encrypted. This should bring the system to a halt.

 

[Fayd]

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: Fayd
btw, who's gonna sort through all that..shit.

Everyone needs to start sending at least 50 emails a day, with the text being War and Peace. Also the largest email attachment.

Encrypted. This should bring the system to a halt.

ooc, i'm not up on encryption.

will 1 encrypted war and peace look exactly like another encrypted war and peace, assuming they use the same encryption?

(i do mean bit for bit. thus the admin couldnt just ignore all bitstreams that "look like this".)

thus, when you send those 50 emails a day, make sure to change a few letters each time at random ^_^

 

[oynaz]

Originally posted by: Fayd

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: Fayd
btw, who's gonna sort through all that..shit.

Everyone needs to start sending at least 50 emails a day, with the text being War and Peace. Also the largest email attachment.

Encrypted. This should bring the system to a halt.

will 1 encrypted war and peace look exactly like another encrypted war and peace, assuming they use the same encryption?

No, that would rather defeat the purpose.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: Fayd

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: Fayd
btw, who's gonna sort through all that..shit.

Everyone needs to start sending at least 50 emails a day, with the text being War and Peace. Also the largest email attachment.

Encrypted. This should bring the system to a halt.

ooc, i'm not up on encryption.

will 1 encrypted war and peace look exactly like another encrypted war and peace, assuming they use the same encryption?

(i do mean bit for bit. thus the admin couldnt just ignore all bitstreams that "look like this".)

thus, when you send those 50 emails a day, make sure to change a few letters each time at random ^_^

Just having fun. The decryption attempts would put an extra strain on the systems if the content is scanned. There are different encryption methods which will look different since there will be different keys. Some are quite sophisticated. Prime number theory is used.

Depending on communication transport, not all 256 possible combinations of a byte can be used since some are used for transport control. This is not a consideration with tcp/ip.

Encryption, actively researched since ww2, but attempted in one form or another for several thousand years, is quite interesting. Breaking german (enigma) and japanese code machines was very significant in ww2. There are many books about it - some very interesting for the novice and others that are better than a sleeping pill.

 

[sdifox]

If you really want a visit from the authorities, send out encrypted emails that just reference chapter and verse of the Qur'an...

 

[Soccer55]

Originally posted by: Newbian

Originally posted by: Queasy
That's alot of Nigerian spam.

Wait.... you mean there is no princess? :|

<Nigerian Spammer>

Thank you Newbian! But our princess is in another castle!

</Nigerian Spammer>

 

[Triumph]

I think it was William McKinley who said, "If the government dissolved today, it would be 6 months before the average American even noticed." That was back in the 1890's or so. And that's the way it should be! But this is Great Britain, and you know how the other saying goes, the people get the government that they deserve.

Secure beneath the watchful eyes!

 

[TwiceOver]

Meh. I guess I don't do enough illegal shit on the internet to care.

Now from the ISP side, yeah, this sucks.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Fayd

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: Fayd
btw, who's gonna sort through all that..shit.

Everyone needs to start sending at least 50 emails a day, with the text being War and Peace. Also the largest email attachment.

Encrypted. This should bring the system to a halt.

ooc, i'm not up on encryption.

will 1 encrypted war and peace look exactly like another encrypted war and peace, assuming they use the same encryption?

(i do mean bit for bit. thus the admin couldnt just ignore all bitstreams that "look like this".)

thus, when you send those 50 emails a day, make sure to change a few letters each time at random ^_^

Guys, it helps to read the OP - at least the bolded parts.

The data retention rules require the archival of all email traffic (the identities of the sender and receiver, but not the contents of the messages),

 

[Kelvrick]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Fayd

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: Fayd
btw, who's gonna sort through all that..shit.

Everyone needs to start sending at least 50 emails a day, with the text being War and Peace. Also the largest email attachment.

Encrypted. This should bring the system to a halt.

ooc, i'm not up on encryption.

will 1 encrypted war and peace look exactly like another encrypted war and peace, assuming they use the same encryption?

(i do mean bit for bit. thus the admin couldnt just ignore all bitstreams that "look like this".)

thus, when you send those 50 emails a day, make sure to change a few letters each time at random ^_^

Guys, it helps to read the OP - at least the bolded parts.

The data retention rules require the archival of all email traffic (the identities of the sender and receiver, but not the contents of the messages),

Yea... Sure.

Omg, our police knew the killer emailed this person an hour before they were killed, but they couldn't find out what it was. We should save EVERYTHING!

 

[yllus]

Not a big deal since it's impossible to implement.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: yllus
Not a big deal since it's impossible to implement.

 

[Mark R]

Originally posted by: yllus
Not a big deal since it's impossible to implement.

Hasn't stopped the government making it a legal requirement for all UK ISPs implement it, whatever the cost.

I've got a couple of contacts who work at IT distributors and resellers, who suggest that there have been a significant number of enquiries for Petabyte storage arrays, apparently from ISPs and other telcos.

I have no idea how much this is going to cost. But the law requires all ISPs to archive all endpoints of all communications, and the time/date it was made.
for e-mail messages, the sender and recipient(s)
for web requests, the URL
for any TCP/IP connection or stream of UDP/IP packets, the source/destination addresses and time that the communication took place over
etc.

 

[destrekor]

the shit that is being allowed to pass these days just makes my sig quote cry.
Uncle, I will do what I legally can to try and fight what you worried about some 230 years ago!

Hopefully that shit never makes its way over here. Though we still have Section 2 of the PATRIOT Act to deal with - hopefully the Sunset date can come and go and the current administration and congress will move past it.

 

[JS80]

this is so ridic it's lulz.

is this even feasible?

 

[Mardeth]

Did people even read the article? "The data retention rules require the archival of all email traffic (the identities of the sender and receiver, but not the contents of the messages)"

 

[James Bond]

This is very, very bad. Not just for them, for everyone.

 

[James Bond]

Originally posted by: Mardeth
Did people even read the article? "The data retention rules require the archival of all email traffic (the identities of the sender and receiver, but not the contents of the messages)"

It's still a huge step in that direction - what's next? Going from no (or almost no) monitoring to collecting data from every single email is a massive step for them - most likely the most difficult one (now that they are this far, collecting the email bodies isn't that big of a deal...)