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UK aircraft carrier sent to Gulf

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UK aircraft carrier for Gulf
Saturday, November 03, 2007

LONDON: A Royal Navy aircraft carrier is to be sent to the Gulf in early 2008, the defence ministry in London said on Friday but added that its deployment was not linked to possible military action against Iran.

A ministry spokesman told AFP that HMS (Her Majesty?s Ship) Illustrious will head for the Gulf accompanied by the Type 42 destroyer HMS Edinburgh and the Type 23 frigate HMS Westminster.

Also involved in Operation Orion 08 will be two minesweepers and three support vessels from the Royal Fleet Auxiliary. ?There is going to be a deployment east of Suez,? the spokesman told AFP by telephone. ?It?s routine. It was planned one or two years ago. It?s absolutely not linked with Iran.?

The ships will sail in the Gulf, the Indian Ocean and the Red Sea for about six months, with the operation designed to demonstrate Britain?s commitment to maritime security and ability to work with other world navies, he added.

But the Daily Telegraph newspaper said the deployment of British ships in such sensitive waters ?may coincide with a crucial period in the West?s confrontation with Iran? over its disputed nuclear programme.

?Observers believe that the spring is the last possible moment for President George W Bush to order military strikes against Iran?s nuclear programme,? it said in a report from Manama, Bahrain.

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War is coming.


 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Can that fuck Bush launch strikes against Iran without Congressional approval?
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Legally? No. But since when has the rule of law gotten in his way?

"It's just a God damned piece of paper!" After all.
 
It's all show and tell down there. Show your carriers, tell Iran what to do. Gunboat diplomacy, alive and well.
 
Originally posted by: Worlocked
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Can that fuck Bush launch strikes against Iran without Congressional approval?
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Legally? No. But since when has the rule of law gotten in his way?

"It's just a God damned piece of paper!" After all.
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ummm you need to get a clue.

1. Bush never said that.

2. Clinton bombed Serbia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Sudan and Yemen all without congressional approval. Reagan bombed Libya without approval as well.
 
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Can that fuck Bush launch strikes against Iran without Congressional approval?
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No. And he wont.
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Hillary signed the bill giving him permission, in my opinion. He can do anything he wants to protect the US and that includes anything he says is national security. He is the decider. It that fucker thinks we need to bomb Iran to prevent them from getting nukes he'll do it in my opinion. This is why he needs to be impeached. He's a mental case. But the Democrats are worse because they are cowards.
 
The real question, is will the New PM, Gordon Brown, allow himself to be a GWB poodle after Tony Blair became unacceptable for doing so?

But a bombing campaign carries much less political risk than having boots on the ground being caught in the the quicksand of a quagmire. Unlike Japan in WW2, Iran lacks the capacity to be that economic boiler that once lit can develop unlimited power on a unstoppable path to revenge on the British homeland. At the same time, the addition of British air power to US air power would not add all that much to a US led air strike.

It really boils down to the Skoorb contention that anyone who advocates a war with Iran is am imbecile. We already know GWB is an imbecile, is Gordon Brown an idiot too? Stupid enough to not consider that a war with Iran is all too likely to cause a world wide economic depression in no time flat.
 
Originally posted by: Lemon law
The real question, is will the New PM, Gordon Brown, allow himself to be a GWB poodle after Tony Blair became unacceptable for doing so?

But a bombing campaign carries much less political risk than having boots on the ground being caught in the the quicksand of a quagmire. Unlike Japan in WW2, Iran lacks the capacity to be that economic boiler that once lit can develop unlimited power on a unstoppable path to revenge on the British homeland. At the same time, the addition of British air power to US air power would not add all that much to a US led air strike.

It really boils down to the Skoorb contention that anyone who advocates a war with Iran is am imbecile. We already know GWB is an imbecile, is Gordon Brown an idiot too? Stupid enough to not consider that a war with Iran is all too likely to cause a world wide economic depression in no time flat.
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Gordon Brown has an early election to call.
Don't bet on it.
 
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Can that fuck Bush launch strikes against Iran without Congressional approval?
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No. And he wont.
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Hillary signed the bill giving him permission, in my opinion. He can do anything he wants to protect the US and that includes anything he says is national security. He is the decider. It that fucker thinks we need to bomb Iran to prevent them from getting nukes he'll do it in my opinion. This is why he needs to be impeached. He's a mental case. But the Democrats are worse because they are cowards.
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:thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Can that fuck Bush launch strikes against Iran without Congressional approval?
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Yes.

And if it becomes necessary, I fully support him doing it.
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Hasn't your ilk done enough damage to this country?
 
It's just a F'en piece of paper... (yeah he did say it... Grow a pair already)

Well, idiot bush is what 18% approval rating? What does the fool have to lose? He is already gonna go down in HISTORY as the WORST president in the world.... What's another 15-18% points lost? Maybe he thinks if he makes it down to ZERO then he can shoot the moon? But, he is just a puppet that reports to the money men... A puppet on a string and most of the money men in our country have ties to Israel so it's almost a given that we are going to do something...

The real sad part is if we do bomb the crap out of them... The only thing shooting to the moon will be OIL....

China and Russia will be our enemy ... Who knows who else will join in to be our enemy... But pissing off the world with the most population doesn't seem very bright to me. I know that the casualties in Iraq will be GREATER if we do something stupid regardless.
 
Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Can that fuck Bush launch strikes against Iran without Congressional approval?
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Yes.

And if it becomes necessary, I fully support him doing it.
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Hasn't your ilk done enough damage to this country?
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pot calling kettle black again...lolol
 
Since there seems to be confusion on this issue, there is absolutely no real dispute that Bush could choose to bomb Iran perfectly legally without Congressional approval.

Its only military actions which are expected to last over 6 months, generally with troops involved on the ground which potentially require Congressional approval under the War Power Act, so a brief bombing campaign without any invasion wouldn't count.

This by no means suggests I think that would be a good idea right now and I really hate Bush's actions involving Iraq, but simply from a legal perspective its really quite straightforward when you take a look.

Its worth noting though that the note about how spring is the last point that Bush could possibly launch such an operation is clearly false unless they are looking at political considerations which Bush could either ignore, or possibly interpret otherwise so he thinks he could act later. All the intelligence estimates (even from Israel and the like) are saying Iran is at least several years from having a functional nuclear bomb.
 
Bush has destroyed his Presidency. No reason now not to take the rest of us with him. The man is cracked in my opinion and dangerous.
 
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Can that fuck Bush launch strikes against Iran without Congressional approval?
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Yes.

And if it becomes necessary, I fully support him doing it.
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Hasn't your ilk done enough damage to this country?
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pot calling kettle black again...lolol
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You are going to bankrupt this great country with Iraq alone, yet you want to keep digging and start another debacle with a country with 3 times the people?
 
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Can that fuck Bush launch strikes against Iran without Congressional approval?
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Yes.

And if it becomes necessary, I fully support him doing it.
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:thumbsup:
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The deal is this administrations judgement when it comes to what's necessary in regards to foriegn affairs is documented questionable, just look at Iraq for a perfect example.
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Can that fuck Bush launch strikes against Iran without Congressional approval?
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Yes.

And if it becomes necessary, I fully support him doing it.
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:thumbsup:
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The deal is this administrations judgement when it comes to what's necessary in regards to foriegn affairs is documented questionable, just look at Iraq for a perfect example.
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You mean "slam dunk" isn't good enough for you? 😉
 
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Can that fuck Bush launch strikes against Iran without Congressional approval?
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Yes.

And if it becomes necessary, I fully support him doing it.
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:thumbsup:
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The deal is this administrations judgement when it comes to what's necessary in regards to foriegn affairs is documented questionable, just look at Iraq for a perfect example.
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You mean "slam dunk" isn't good enough for you? 😉
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No I'm not Bush luvin Screw Head.
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Can that fuck Bush launch strikes against Iran without Congressional approval?
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Who cares, good chance those ass monkies would give it to him anyway.
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Not if they want to be re-elected. Back before the disaterous invasion of Iraq Americans some what trusted Bush, now Americans only trust him to fuck up.
 
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