uh oh, here come the pakistanis

[mastertech01]

Two things to consider... they have to make it to a safe refuge from Pakistan and also it took US Forces, primarily Air Force, to kill 100000 Iraqi heavily armed troops 3 days to accomplish that mission.

 

[Tripleshot]

Lets see, how many royal guardsmen did Iraq loose in the gulf war when the B52's let fall thier lethal cluster bombs? If pakistani's want to go against thier country and its leader, let them. We can handle it.

Remember,the Taliban is mostly Pakistani extract. And many Taliban Afghans had a month to cross the border to avoid our intial assult. Well,if they want to come out and fight,we can ablige them, from 36,000 feet.

 

[Pocatello]

I'll bet the Pakistani president is relieved. Why, these people are making a lot of trouble at home, instead of a big crack down by the Pakistani government, which will look bad. Let the American kill them instead. You get rid of the trouble makers without getting your hands dirty.

 

[Tripleshot]

Pocatello
Good point. That had eluded me for the moment. There is some politcal considerations too.

As I understand, the air base inthe southern part of Pakistan is suurounded by some of these pro Taliban Mofos and have shot at our choppers. That won't last long before Puff breaths fire and brimstone on them.

 

[Pocatello]

There were reports that some of our helicopter were fired upon inside of Pakistan.

 

[MrHelpful]

You know something funny? The Taliban have Stinger SAM launchers. And do you know who gave them those lethal weapons? The good old US of A.

Linky-linky.

 

[mastertech01]

Thats been known for a long time. We even tried to buy them back and they refused.

 

[Rainsford]

Ah yes, the old, "Hey, it's something to get pissed off about." reason. These Pakistanis are poor, hungry, and probably persecuted by their government, and that anger is being directed at a conventient target, the US. And that is the problem we will face in that region as a whole. It's not that the groups their hate us so much, it's that many of them are just looking for an outlet for their anger that has been developing for a long, long time, since way before the US was even a gleam in our founding fathers' eyes.

 

[bigdog1218]

this is probably old news, but i just heard on msnbc that we hit our second red cross station yesterday, so this is what billions of dollars of technology gets you, dead red cross volunteers, i hope those 200 billion dollars worth of planes can tell the difference between terrorists and innocent people, oh wait they can't, i mean these planes we have now aren't really doing a good job of killing terrorists, we've probably killed more red cross volunteers than terrorists linked to bin laden so far

 

[edjam]

British SAS and SBS are the best Spec Ops in the world, I'm sorry but it's true.

 

[mastertech01]

<< Tthis is probably old news, but i just heard on msnbc that we hit our second red cross station yesterday, so this is what billions of dollars of technology gets you, dead red cross volunteers, i hope those 200 billion dollars worth of planes can tell the difference between terrorists and innocent people, oh wait they can't, i mean these planes we have now aren't really doing a good job of killing terrorists, we've probably killed more red cross volunteers than terrorists linked to bin laden so far ext >>



The planes dont hit the targets, the munitions do, and if you expect perfection you are never going to get it. We can do more with our current munitions than ever before. In prior wars carpet bombing was the only way. It just not a perfect world. You get what you have to work with. Its not entirely the US fault that the Taliban have to hide in amoungst the innocent to create human shields for thier defenses.

 

[MrHelpful]

<< we've probably killed more red cross volunteers than terrorists linked to bin laden so far >>


Are you a member of the ACLU?

 

[Magicthyse]

the Special Forces have hardly failed. Please list all the times they 'screw up.'

Gulf War
Somalia
Vietnam
Iran
etc, etc...

N.B. "Special Forces" include British Special Forces as well in the Gulf War scenario.

Being honest, it's rarely the Forces themselves - who are, as you well know, superbly trained - who make the fatal error. It is usually their intelligence, or lack of it. However, the fact that they screw up becomes their problem, not the intel people's.

Who knows - I may be 'fvcking retarded', however by that token you've had a total lobotomy. An informed opinion is more than mindlessly waving the flag and a gun.

 

[yoda291]

<< An informed opinion is more than mindlessly waving the flag and a gun. >>



DAmmit..I keep forgetting to bring a flag to these things.

 

[LethalWolfe]

<< the Special Forces have hardly failed. Please list all the times they 'screw up.'

Gulf War
Somalia
Vietnam
Iran
etc, etc...

N.B. "Special Forces" include British Special Forces as well in the Gulf War scenario.

Being honest, it's rarely the Forces themselves - who are, as you well know, superbly trained - who make the fatal error. It is usually their intelligence, or lack of it. However, the fact that they screw up becomes their problem, not the intel people's.

Who knows - I may be 'fvcking retarded', however by that token you've had a total lobotomy. An informed opinion is more than mindlessly waving the flag and a gun. >>




I think we hear much more about the Spec Ops that go wrong, then the ones that go right.


Lethal

 

[charrison]

If we bombed the red cross 1 time, it probably was an accident. But since we bombed the red cross again, I am sure it was planned.

They can run, but they cant hide.

 

[Magicthyse]

I think we hear much more about the Spec Ops that go wrong, then the ones that go right.

I'm not sure - especially given that the phrase 'military intelligence' is frequently an oxymoron... I think what they should do is to occasionally send the S-2 out on the missions themselves. That'd shake up the quality of the intel, huh?

 

[CocaCola5]

Panama was also a Special Force debacle. These guys don't have reinforcement on the ground like regular troops so they can be vulnerble.

 

[Antoneo]

<< the Special Forces have hardly failed. Please list all the times they 'screw up.'

Gulf War
Somalia
Vietnam
Iran
etc, etc...

N.B. "Special Forces" include British Special Forces as well in the Gulf War scenario.

Being honest, it's rarely the Forces themselves - who are, as you well know, superbly trained - who make the fatal error. It is usually their intelligence, or lack of it. However, the fact that they screw up becomes their problem, not the intel people's.

Who knows - I may be 'fvcking retarded', however by that token you've had a total lobotomy. An informed opinion is more than mindlessly waving the flag and a gun. >>


The Studies and Observations Group (SOG) of the United States during the Vietnam war was highly successful, rescuing many soldiers from the Northern Vietnamese.

 

[erikiksaz]

I must have heard it somewhere, but i also think that we seldom ever hear of Spec Ops accomplishing anything, unless they fail. it might have been either cnn or msn, i don't remember.