Ugh- why are people still using POP3???

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Ichinisan

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Want to see an email server crash?

Install exchange and add 10,000 users.

Why do providers user pop3? Because it works.

Don't all ISPs that support POP also support IMAP? I think the OP is complaining that users have a choice of POP or IMAP and some people still gravitate to POP configuration.
 

sourceninja

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Not everyone likes their email being stored on a server they can't control, that is also full of backdoors for the NSA.

How does pop protect you from storing email on a server you do not control? Only running your own mail server does that.

How does using pop protect you from the NSA? Only end to end encryption can attempt to do that.

Your argument makes no sense.
 

Red Squirrel

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How does pop protect you from storing email on a server you do not control? Only running your own mail server does that.

How does using pop protect you from the NSA? Only end to end encryption can attempt to do that.

Your argument makes no sense.

If I run my own server chances are it will be pop or imap. Idealy, the secure version which is encrypted. Though it's not so much about security, because you have no control over the path emails take going out or coming in, but it's about control. Doing your own backups, setting up the spam filtration that you want, etc. Also once email is on your server at least you know nobody can just go snoop at it any time. It's a bit more work to go look at packet logs and I would imagine those get purged after a while as the internet as a whole produces TONS of packet data so the NSA can only store so much of it. Maybe a years worth or so, if that.
 

lamedude

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Don't all ISPs that support POP also support IMAP? I think the OP is complaining that users have a choice of POP or IMAP and some people still gravitate to POP configuration.
Comcast didn't have IMAP until Win8's release because the metro mail app doesn't support POP3. Then it was in beta for like a year.
 

Fritzo

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Hmm, I find this to be largely false. If the environment is scaled right and has redundancy this wouldn't happen. At least not under my watch. I run a 2,000 user Exchange 2010 environment and never had downtime.

These has been a confusion of terms here too. Exchange uses MAPI, not IMAP.
 

Ichinisan

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These has been a confusion of terms here too. Exchange uses MAPI, not IMAP.

MAPI is not an email protocol. It's a way for Microsoft email clients to integrate with other software running on the same machine.

Does it have anything to do with Exchange? Or just Outlook / WinMail?

People say Exchange is "like IMAP" in the sense that you're working with messages and folders that are all stored in one place -- on the mail server -- instead of working with local copies of messages.