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killster1

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no choices.. just went with infinity 1262.. parts express flatpacksx2 some duratex pain and roller.. inuke 1000dsp amp.. some screws and connectors and tape. hope didnt forget anything. will update with some results and how difficult it was.


Everything came in mail.. the DIY thread failed to say will need XLR RCA adapter and some PL premium. Hooked up my old subs to the amp and the 40$ fosgates are beating super good.
The Inuke is amazing to tweak with. excited to see how much better the 1262's will be. Put one the woofers in the cheapie box and sounded "ok" will do some compare tests today maybe.
 
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queequeg99

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That's a pretty big price range. You might want to post your question on avsforum.com. You'll want to explain what you intend to listen to, how loudly, and what the room size is. You should get some pretty good recommendations.
 
IHateMyJob2004

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gus6464 said:
Reaction audio BPS 212 Turbo
http://reaction-audio.myshopify.com/collections/frontpage/products/bps-212-turbo-powered-subwoofer

Now DIY I got 2 little Infinity subs in a 1.5cf sealed box that will destroy everything on that list. Let me know if you want to know more.
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MORE! I have some towers with 12" woofers from Infinity. But they are in a 400 sqft room. I'm thinking about adding more bass.

Kinda sucks though. If I turn my sub channel on, the bandpass filter for the fronts also turns on which I do not want. I still want those12"ers to kick but with some help.
 
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LikeLinus

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IHateMyJob2004 said:
MORE! I have some towers with 12" woofers from Infinity. But they are in a 400 sqft room. I'm thinking about adding more bass.

Kinda sucks though. If I turn my sub channel on, the bandpass filter for the fronts also turns on which I do not want. I still want those12"ers to kick but with some help.
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If he's talking about the reference 1260 (or 62), I'd certainly put them in a ported enclosure and separate them.

http://cdn.avsforum.com/5/5b/5b9b2d24_1.png

The yellow line is sealed vs the others are ported in varying sizes. The other thing is you want subs in multiple place, if possible, so you get smoother response in your room.
 
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LikeLinus said:
If he's talking about the reference 1260 (or 62), I'd certainly put them in a ported enclosure and separate them.

http://cdn.avsforum.com/5/5b/5b9b2d24_1.png

The yellow line is sealed vs the others are ported in varying sizes. The other thing is you want subs in multiple place, if possible, so you get smoother response in your room.
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Dual 1262W's do not need to be ported to hit 20Hz in a room powered by an inuke 1000dsp.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1519758/c...ing-diysoundgroup-flat-packs/60#post_24620858

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That is with a 10db bump at 20Hz off an inuke 1000dsp and after Audessey which is pretty damn good IMO for $500 spent for 2 small subs. I also did mean having 2 separate enclosures since I wasn't very clear in my post. Of course the OP can do better with ported but the build I linked was done with the PE flatpacks so it is super easy to put together and requires no fancy tools or woodworking skills as they come together like legos.
 
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one of the martys tuned to 17hz is pretty nuts, especially for what they cost. the post linked above has all the info, hes selling the flat packed box here. assuming you have room for a 9 CUFT box and the ability to put it together its hard to think of a better deal. its under 500 for that premade box + driver, and add in a 300$ amp and you are ready to rock

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1529375/martysub-flatpacks-veneer-speaker-stands/0_100
 
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LikeLinus

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gus6464 said:
Dual 1262W's do not need to be ported to hit 20Hz in a room powered by an inuke 1000dsp.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1519758/c...ing-diysoundgroup-flat-packs/60#post_24620858

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That is with a 10db bump at 20Hz off an inuke 1000dsp and after Audessey which is pretty damn good IMO for $500 spent for 2 small subs. I also did mean having 2 separate enclosures since I wasn't very clear in my post. Of course the OP can do better with ported but the build I linked was done with the PE flatpacks so it is super easy to put together and requires no fancy tools or woodworking skills as they come together like legos.
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Sorry, I don't think you fully understood my post. I wasn't suggesting that it is not capable of playing at 20hz sealed. But to help people better understand what I'm pointing out, the sealed is pushing 97db @ 20hz. The smallest ported sub in that chart is plotting at 106db at 20hz. That's an 11db increase! To understand the importance in that, look at rule #2 in the link below.

http://www.audioholics.com/room-acoustics/the-decibel-db

Rule #2: +6dB = double the sound pressure, 2x driver excursion

That essentially means that for every +6db increase, it's like adding an additional sub at the same sound level. So that 11db difference would be like having twice as many subs.

It's just a suggestion for IHateMyJob2004 as he said he wanted more info and this gives him options.

Either way, I'd go with one of the Marty options if space isn't an issue for the OP. Heck, the MartyCube is still only 4cf and would kill any other option in that price range.
 
Midwayman

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killster1 said:
No budget really but.. what should i get

Dayton audio 179$ shipped 15"

svs pb1000 499 shipped 10"
svs SB1000 499 Shipped 10"
BIC-PL200 267 shipped 12" ebay 40 hours used..

i guess bic is inbetween maybe best price/performance.. or should i go svs pb1000 10" sub :(

Have two non amp powered 12" fosgates in box's but dont think they would be best for anything *think they where 40$ with box included shipped each)
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I'd do a pair of the dayton 15" in IB config.
 
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Your room with determine most what sub is best. I could not find the best place for my 15" sub in it's 22" cube. After 9 years of ownership, a 10" sub that cost about 1/5th as much and designed to be placed under a couch got me all the frequencies I ever wanted and I am far happier with it.

So don't spend too much on your 1st sub. Place it in your seating position and crawl around your room to find where you get the best bass. If you are lucky you'll be happy. If not you can sell it to move it to another room.

Best of luck.
 
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killster1

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Grabbed everything on the diy list.. now will see how it turns out ;/ 130=infinity 1262wx2 , 160=2xflatpack ,1000inuke+skrews plugs =240 ..530? sounds like alot more than should have spent on silly subs.. but i guess ill have to see/feel it to find out.
 
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LikeLinus said:
Sorry, I don't think you fully understood my post. I wasn't suggesting that it is not capable of playing at 20hz sealed. But to help people better understand what I'm pointing out, the sealed is pushing 97db @ 20hz. The smallest ported sub in that chart is plotting at 106db at 20hz. That's an 11db increase! To understand the importance in that, look at rule #2 in the link below.

http://www.audioholics.com/room-acoustics/the-decibel-db

Rule #2: +6dB = double the sound pressure, 2x driver excursion

That essentially means that for every +6db increase, it's like adding an additional sub at the same sound level. So that 11db difference would be like having twice as many subs.

It's just a suggestion for IHateMyJob2004 as he said he wanted more info and this gives him options.

Either way, I'd go with one of the Marty options if space isn't an issue for the OP. Heck, the MartyCube is still only 4cf and would kill any other option in that price range.
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Ahh yes I misunderstood your initial post. The martycube is fantastic and if you got the space it's definitely the way to go but the price is also higher as it requires an 18" Dayton HO or Ultimax or any other 18" high excursion driver. Plus not to mention more power along the lines of an inuke 3000. I was sticking to the $500 limit of the OP but if can stretch the budget and room the martycube would be the way to go.

2x 1.5cf boxes are a lot easier to hide in a living room though.
 
Anubis

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gus6464 said:
Alpine subs do not do well in HT. The only 2 car sub companies I have seen that can do good in a HT environment are Infinity and JL.

The 1.5cf flatpack is cheaper at PE.
http://www.parts-express.com/knock-...udio-12-reference-series-ho-subwoof--300-7077
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there are more such as

Stereo integrity - make a 15, 18 and a 24 that work gret in HT, the 18 and 15 (which are coming back this summer) are insane values for what they cost
Fi Car Audio - the 18s are no jkoke.
RE Audio. the RE XXX is a beast for HT
a few of the sundown aucto subs also work well
 
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gus6464

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Anubis said:
there are more such as

Stereo integrity - make a 15, 18 and a 24 that work gret in HT, the 18 and 15 (which are coming back this summer) are insane values for what they cost
Fi Car Audio - the 18s are no jkoke.
RE Audio. the RE XXX is a beast for HT
a few of the sundown aucto subs also work well
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Hmm I always though those subs were made more specifically for HT use.
 
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queequeg99

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killster1 said:
sounds like alot more than should have spent on silly subs..
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"Silly" and "subs" don't belong in the same sentence. ;)

Let us know how it works out for you. My limited experience has been that DIY subs can give you amazing value for the money if done right. Since you're getting a flatpack, doing it right should be relatively easy (it's basically like building a model). I've built two matching folded horns (not from a flatpack - I had to cut to plans) and the sound they crank out is incredible (with dual 8 inch drivers).

Which flatpack did you get? Two of the Daytons? I wasn't able to easily tell from the thread (but I'm on my second glass of pinot noir so I might have missed something).

I hate to say this, but I think you've put yourself on a very slippery slope.
 
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