Ugh blew out my psu, please help

zendari

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PSU was a 550W rosewill. It had 26 A on the 12 V rail, which I thought was more than sufficient.

I was running an Athlon 64 3000+ (single core, oced to 2550 mhz), 2 hard drives, 2 opticals, and an x1900 xt (oced to xtx levels).

The PSU was rock solid for over a year. I left it running atitool 3dtest, and went off to the gym. When I came back my PC was off. I pressed the power button and it sparked and flashed out. You could smell the burn.

I inspected the graphics card, and there's no visible damage to it, and it doesn't look like anything has happened to the motherboard either. I don't have another rig to test anything out though.

ATItool labeled the card as drawing 28 amps on its own. Is this accurate?

What are the chances that I damaged anything else? And what's a good PSU replacement?

My motherboard is the DFI Ultra-D Lanparty, so it takes a 24 pin, the 4 pin connector on the side, a standard 4 pin molex, and a floppy connector.

 

Bobthelost

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ATI tool measures the Amps flowing through the GPU core, which are at around 1.3V or so. Which means that while it's drawing 28A @ 1.3V it's only drawing ~3A for the GPU core @ 12V (roughly).

Rosewill is not a good name, cheap as chips and just about as useful as a battered haddock for powering a computer too.

Look at a 450W fortron from newegg for budget option ($50) or any 430W/500W PSU from enermax, seasonic, OCZ etc. etc.
 

stevty2889

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There is no way the video card is drawing 28amps by itself. Go with a quality brand for your new PSU, Fortron, Enermax, and Seasonic are some of the best. Hard to say if anything else is damaged, I had a power supply blow and take the motherboard, but it was one of the worst brands(powmax). Chances are nothing else was damaged, just be sure to go with a quality PSU from now on.
 

GalvanizedYankee

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Rosewill is the Newegg house brand. Newegg is your friend and only exists to make us happy. Profit or cheap goods?? No never, not at the Egg :p

That fine PSU has a three year warrenty. PM NeweggSupport and I'm sure he will cross ship you the RMA he will freely give. I just looked up the 550 Rosewills, they sell for >$60 so they must be good'ens. ;)

Froogle the Enhance ENP-5140GH when your serious($59). It's got 12V combined at 28A, is 80Plus certed ( http://www.80plus.org/ ) and they roll thier own, no rebranding here. Fortron is now using OST capacitors on the output side. These are crap caps. Enhance uses Teapo through out thier units, not the very best but certainly better than OST.


...Galvanized
 

corkyg

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I would follow Stevety2889's suggestions. Enermax is usually always a good bet. I have had happen exactly what you describe - and it was Antec. There is a reason for cheap. :)

Anyway, my system was undamaged. A new PSU and it booted right up. The only way to know is to try it and see.
 

Sniper82

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Originally posted by: GalvanizedYankee
Originally posted by: zendari
How is the antec brand?

JUNK!

Wrong, I would say Antec ain't the best brand but its def not junk. Although I wouldn't recommend the cheapest PSU from any brand try to get something in the $70-$100 range if you have it. Either way I think you have a 40% chance it took something with it. I seen a HD throw sparks and the only real damage I could find anywhere on a system is it blew off a chip on a Maxtor 80gb which Maxtor RMAed no problem. Even after telling them the truth. Maxtor IMO is a iffy brand but their customer support is top notch.

Either way Enermax,Seasonic,Fortron,Antec,OCZ,PC Power and Cooler,ect(not in any order) are IMO the top brands you can get. I been running a Enermax on a Athlon 64 system @ 2.4ghz and different video cards for almost 2 years and never one problem.

BTW all brands no matter the quality are gonna have some defective units. If you buy a Seasonic(or whatever brand) and it decides to crap out it doesn't mean its a crappy brand. Now if you keep getting bad PSU's from a certain brand then stay away from them.
 

GalvanizedYankee

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Cheaply made PSUs...Rosewill is built by Youngyear or L&C=YUCK! can damage harware at burn-up because they have no protective devices inplace.

Enermax is OK. Seasonic i$ expen$ive but VG. Plus it can be quiet.


...Galvanized
 

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Originally posted by: GalvanizedYankee
Cheaply made PSUs...Rosewill is built by Youngyear or L&C=YUCK! can damage harware at burn-up because they have no protective devices inplace.

All of the Rosewill's I've seen have been ATNG, which is better than Youngyear or L&C, but certainly no better or worse than an Antec SmartPower. A TruePower is better simply because of the independent voltage regulation, but then you have to question it's longevity with it's no-to-slow fans and over-rated, under-spec Fuhjyyu caps.

Antec is migrating to Seasonic by discontinuing their CWT built TruePowers in favor for the Seasonic built TruePower Trio. Of course, there's also the NeoHE.

For the money though, I would consider other brands.
 

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Enermax, enhance, seasonic, fortron, sparkle, ocz, and zippy and pcp&c if you feel like taking out a loan for your psu. I'd 2nd the recommendation for the the 5140gh, but if you want to spend a little less, ewiz sells the sparkle fsp400-60thn for $55 shipped. When did fortron change their caps?
 

rise

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blah blah blah....antec sux... blah blah blah... antec is crap....

bunch o' band waggon jumpin rubberstamps is AT... blah blah blah...
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: GalvanizedYankee
Froogle the Enhance ENP-5140GH when your serious($59). It's got 12V combined at 28A, is 80Plus certed ( http://www.80plus.org/ ) and they roll thier own, no rebranding here. Fortron is now using OST capacitors on the output side. These are crap caps. Enhance uses Teapo through out thier units, not the very best but certainly better than OST.

...Galvanized

I went with one of these. Reasonable price too IIRC I payed almost as much for that Rosewill.

Thanks!
 

rise

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yes, with all my "blah blahing" i also have an enhance, the 0560g. nice supplies. :)
 

GalvanizedYankee

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jonny, I looked it up. Rosewill AP models are ATNG, the RE models are Youngyear.


acegazda, as highly reguarded as the Fortron GLN series and Epsilons are, the
fact remains they use OST on thier output side. OST is known lower tier. Not as bad as
the infamous Fuhjyyu capacitors that will continue to haunt Antec for several years, but
not even close to Teapo, as used by Enhance, PCP&C and many other PSU builders.

Zippy/Emacs uses RubyCon, United Chemi-Con(both are Nipponese) and some small CapXon.


...Galvanized
 

acegazda

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hey, it's not "jumping on the bandwagon" if the facts prove that it's a good psu, everyone SHOULD be doing it!:D
 

GalvanizedYankee

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Originally posted by: acegazda
hey, it's not "jumping on the bandwagon" if the facts prove that it's a good psu, everyone SHOULD be doing it!:D

Ignore rise, he didn't eat breakfast, he's running out of cigarettes and lunch needs to be
eaten :p He has probably been pounding coffee too. ;)
I gave up coffee and tabaca 6 weeks ago...Cold turkey. *happy feet*


...Galvanized

 

SparkyJJO

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GY are you saying then that Fortron is no longer on the recommended PSU list? I got a friend a 450W Fortron PSU a couple months ago so I hope it is OK.
But then if OST caps are better than the Fuhjyyu or whatever they are that Antec puts in their PSUs and I've never had one of those go bad then it'll probably be OK ;)
 

rise

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Originally posted by: GalvanizedYankee
Originally posted by: acegazda
hey, it's not "jumping on the bandwagon" if the facts prove that it's a good psu, everyone SHOULD be doing it!:D

Ignore rise, he didn't eat breakfast, he's running out of cigarettes and lunch needs to be
eaten :p He has probably been pounding coffee too. ;)
I gave up coffee and tabaca 6 weeks ago...Cold turkey. *happy feet*


...Galvanized
aren't you freakin special :D

yeah, i pound coffee all day and my stomach is growling but i go on vacation tomorrow so i'm planning on killing the buffet, lol. 24 more hours.

doesn't change the fact that half the anwrec bashers have never even owned one ;)
 

rise

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Pick yourself up a PC Power & Cooling unit. Definitely avoid Antec.

umm, yeah, he already ordered an enhance. "rollo for video mod" indeed.
 

SparkyJJO

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Originally posted by: rise
Originally posted by: Pabster
Pick yourself up a PC Power & Cooling unit. Definitely avoid Antec.

umm, yeah, he already ordered an enhance. "rollo for video mod" indeed.

I thought rollo was banned anyway for touting nvidia because he was paid to do so? Or something like that, I forget the details and I don't want to get into any GPU war in a PSU thread.

PCPC might be good PSUs but I'm never getting one, too expensive generally from what I've seen.
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
PCPC might be good PSUs but I'm never getting one, too expensive generally from what I've seen.

That's what a lot of people say, until their $50 special blows up and takes their motherboard and CPU right with it.

It's your money, of course. Mine's on PC P&C every time. There's a lot of talk around here about warranties and support. PC P&C is top notch in both areas as well.