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wheresmybacon

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Originally posted by: kevman

That was one of MANY knees he ate in both fights.

The Franklin-Silva fights are a bad omen for Forrest. Franklin is a more technical striker than Griffin, and he got absolutely dismantled when he played the roll of aggressor when he took on Silva, both times.

Silva wouldn't be taking this fight, and Dana wouldn't be offering, if he hadn't waltzed through his last 2 opponents.


 

RagingBITCH

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Originally posted by: TheNinja
People are writing off Forrest too easy. Griffin is a HUGE guy, which alone will cause problems for Anderson. Forrest is probably 225 come figh time, Anderson is probably 205. That's quite a bit of weight. That being said, I think Anderson is too technical from the outside with his striking. I can see Forrest trying to tie Silva up though, maybe get him down and try to wear him out.

GNP isn't Forrest's game...it's stand up and bang. Silva is one of the few people I'd want to drag to the ground with those long legs. No one is writing off Forrest as a chump or a loser, but the fact is, he is going to lose this fight vs Silva.
 

RagingBITCH

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Originally posted by: sourceninja
So rather then bring in good middle weight fighters, they are going to force the champ to move out of his division to get any challenge? Lame!

Like?
 

sourceninja

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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: sourceninja
So rather then bring in good middle weight fighters, they are going to force the champ to move out of his division to get any challenge? Lame!

Like?

Paulo Filho, Lindland, How about Yushi Okami, Ninja, Cung le (Has a great chance), Frank Shamrock, Nick Diaz might actually ahve a chance

Just off the top of my head.
 

shopbruin

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Originally posted by: sourceninja
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: sourceninja
So rather then bring in good middle weight fighters, they are going to force the champ to move out of his division to get any challenge? Lame!

Like?

Paulo Filho, Lindland, How about Yushi Okami, Ninja, Cung le (Has a great chance), Frank Shamrock, Nick Diaz might actually ahve a chance

Just off the top of my head.

They already imported Henderson, and we saw how well that went.

No way on Frank Shamrock, he just lost. Cung Le hasn't fought since he destroyed Shamrock's arm. Nick Diaz will probably never be allowed back in the UFC, Okami is already in the UFC and is fighting at the end of the month so you have to wait for that result, don't know much about Filho except that he's a former PRIDE fighter and they haven't done well in the UFC.

I did kinda want to see GSP/Silva.
 

QueBert

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Originally posted by: sourceninja
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: sourceninja
So rather then bring in good middle weight fighters, they are going to force the champ to move out of his division to get any challenge? Lame!

Like?

Paulo Filho, Lindland, How about Yushi Okami, Ninja, Cung le (Has a great chance), Frank Shamrock, Nick Diaz might actually ahve a chance

Just off the top of my head.

did u see Frank's last fight? Anderson would destroy him, Nick has no chance, Lindland could actually do it, but him and Dana don't get along. Okami, hummm possibly not very likely though. Filho I don't know really. I think the MW currently in the UFC who has the best chance already got beat him by - Nate Marquardt. If they ever rematch Nate could pull it off, he's a great fighter and Greg Jackson is an awesome trainer. Nate looked decent in the 1st fight up until he lost lol.

Silva pretty much did everything in his division and there's nobody left to fight. I thought Franklin had a chance, before Silva only one person had beaten him. LHW will present better challenges for him. Silva Vs Rampage would be awesome, and while Anderson said he would never fight his friend. I'd love to see Silva Vs Machida. Silva Vs Evans would be a good match up.

Forrest might pull it off, he's still improving a lot. it won't be an easy fight because he doesn't have the power to knock Anderson out. But he could use his size advantage to out muscle Silva and get a decision victory,
 

JEDI

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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Ehh, Forrest is the best they can do? Don't get me wrong, I love Forrest, but don't think it's much of a matchup for Silva.

well, silva is going up in weight. doesnt this give him a disadvantage?

why not silva vs gsp?
 

SirChadwick

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Originally posted by: TheNinja
People are writing off Forrest too easy. Griffin is a HUGE guy, which alone will cause problems for Anderson. Forrest is probably 225 come figh time, Anderson is probably 205. That's quite a bit of weight. That being said, I think Anderson is too technical from the outside with his striking. I can see Forrest trying to tie Silva up though, maybe get him down and try to wear him out.

You've got that right. I'm 5'10" 190 and Griffin is 6'3" 220 on average. 30 lbs difference and the dude dwarfs me. He's a huge LHW... one of the biggest.

Here we are side by side
http://i44.tinypic.com/2e38jll.jpg

If Forrest can pull this off... holy hell what a resume. Wins over Rampage, Shogun, and Silva!

I wish him the best of luck. Silva will most likely weight 205-210 on fight night.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: JEDI
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Ehh, Forrest is the best they can do? Don't get me wrong, I love Forrest, but don't think it's much of a matchup for Silva.

well, silva is going up in weight. doesnt this give him a disadvantage?

why not silva vs gsp?

i would love to see silva vs gsp. that would be an amazing fight.


though im pulling for griffin. i just love the guys personality and ethics.
 

SirChadwick

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Silva/GSP will be huge! I just don't see how Silva will move up to 205 and then back down and still have the same level of energy. There is no way he's fighting GSP at 170. It's got to be at catchweight... maybe 180. Superfight!!!!!
 

poopaskoopa

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Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: sourceninja
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: sourceninja
So rather then bring in good middle weight fighters, they are going to force the champ to move out of his division to get any challenge? Lame!

Like?

Paulo Filho, Lindland, How about Yushi Okami, Ninja, Cung le (Has a great chance), Frank Shamrock, Nick Diaz might actually ahve a chance

Just off the top of my head.

did u see Frank's last fight? Anderson would destroy him, Nick has no chance, Lindland could actually do it, but him and Dana don't get along. Okami, hummm possibly not very likely though. Filho I don't know really. I think the MW currently in the UFC who has the best chance already got beat him by - Nate Marquardt. If they ever rematch Nate could pull it off, he's a great fighter and Greg Jackson is an awesome trainer. Nate looked decent in the 1st fight up until he lost lol.

Silva pretty much did everything in his division and there's nobody left to fight. I thought Franklin had a chance, before Silva only one person had beaten him. LHW will present better challenges for him. Silva Vs Rampage would be awesome, and while Anderson said he would never fight his friend. I'd love to see Silva Vs Machida. Silva Vs Evans would be a good match up.

Forrest might pull it off, he's still improving a lot. it won't be an easy fight because he doesn't have the power to knock Anderson out. But he could use his size advantage to out muscle Silva and get a decision victory,

Le/Shamrock/Diaz would have to be allowed to bring weapons in order to have a shot at beating Silva. With Okami, maybe UFC can play the rematch angle, but i doubt it, because IIRC Silva was winning the fight until he disqualified himself with that kick.
 

Crazee

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Silva will destroy Griffin. The weight won't be as big a deal as most people think. Remember when Silva fought Irvin he weighed in at 205 and he looked bigger than Irvin. He looked ripped up and I was amazed he could get back down to 185 for his next fight with Cote. Look at this picture of him killing Irvin and look at his arms and shoulders. link
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QueBert

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Originally posted by: Crazee
Silva will destroy Griffin. The weight won't be as big a deal as most people think. Remember when Silva fought Irvin he weighed in at 205 and he looked bigger than Irvin. He looked ripped up and I was amazed he could get back down to 185 for his next fight with Cote. Look at this picture of him killing Irvin and look at his arms and shoulders. link
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Irving isn't Griffin. Irving fights very reckless and pretty much makes every one of his punches a haymaker. Griffin is a much better and far more well rounded fighter. Irving is entertaining to watch, but he fights with his heart and not his head. Griffin will fight smarter and I could see this going the distance. Forrest has awesome leg kicks with a lot of power. A couple killer leg kicks could really neutralize Silvas striking power.

Obviously Forrest will be the underdog here, but he's training with Team Couture and has a lot of heart and a pretty good chin. Should be an exciting fight and anything could happen.
I don't see Forrest getting destroyed though. He lasted 5 rounds against Page, and even though Page didn't look himself, he still looked decent. Page is as good as Silva.

 

lifeobry

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Still, Griffin lost to Rashad Evans in a stand-up striking battle. I'm pretty sure Silva will bring equal if not greater ability in a stand up fight than Evans did.
 

Tea Bag

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Quite intriguing news out of the fight world with this coming up, and Silva of all people also reported to train his former rival, also in his division at 205. This is going to be the makings of an interesting summer for MMA fans.
 

ballmode

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What I don't get is why UFC doesnt want these knockout fights. Chuck had a long reign and so did Tito. The more he keeps knocking out people the more Silva will bring in $$$$
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: ballmode
What I don't get is why UFC doesnt want these knockout fights. Chuck had a long reign and so did Tito. The more he keeps knocking out people the more Silva will bring in $$$$

because he don't knock people out all the time. his last fight was a snooz fest.

 

Crazee

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Originally posted by: QueBert
Irving isn't Griffin. Irving fights very reckless and pretty much makes every one of his punches a haymaker. Griffin is a much better and far more well rounded fighter. Irving is entertaining to watch, but he fights with his heart and not his head. Griffin will fight smarter and I could see this going the distance. Forrest has awesome leg kicks with a lot of power. A couple killer leg kicks could really neutralize Silvas striking power.

Obviously Forrest will be the underdog here, but he's training with Team Couture and has a lot of heart and a pretty good chin. Should be an exciting fight and anything could happen.
I don't see Forrest getting destroyed though. He lasted 5 rounds against Page, and even though Page didn't look himself, he still looked decent. Page is as good as Silva.

I never compared Irvin and Griffin. I brought up the Irvin fight to show how big Silva looked for the fight.

Styles make fights. Griffin is made for Silva. Forrest does have good leg kicks but so does Silva. Silva is a better striker and that is Forrest's strength. If they go to the ground, Silva is better there too. Griffin's best shot is to catch him with a good punch.

I like Rampage, but there is no way he is as good as Silva. He has no answer for the leg kicks that both Forrest and Jardine put on him. Silva is a better striker than Rampage and better on the ground. With the possible exception of GSP, he is the most well rounded fighter in the UFC.