UFC 167 Nov 16th PPV 10pm/7pm ET/PT

[WaTaGuMp]

St Pierre vs Hendricks.

http://www.ufc.com/event/UFC167

 

[WiseUp216]

I feel like I might be buying into the hype a little bit but I think Hendricks wins this.

2nd Round TKO

I think GSP's gameplan will be to stay at range with his jab and use more kicks than we usually see. I don't see how he can out-wrestle Hendricks like he does with everyone else.

 

[Wingznut]

A very stacked card. This is the 20th Anniversary event, right?

Sergio Pettis... Is that Anthony's brother? They look very much alike.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Sergio Pettis... Is that Anthony's brother? They look very much alike.

Yes it is. I have seen Anthony corner him for his fights.

I feel like I might be buying into the hype a little bit but I think Hendricks wins this.

2nd Round TKO

I think GSP's gameplan will be to stay at range with his jab and use more kicks than we usually see. I don't see how he can out-wrestle Hendricks like he does with everyone else.

The reason GSP is able to takedown great wrestlers is timing. Hendrix throws bombs, so a well timed duck under double is very difficult to stop. GSP consequently has the power and speed to plant anyone near his weight.

 

[Druidx]

Hendricks has looked fantastic in his fights but he has never faced someone like GSP. Hendricks has a better than average punchers chance due to his power but I think that is about it. Everyone talks about how great Hendricks wrestling is but I still think GSP will be able to take him down and control him the same he did with Matt Hughes.
I predict GSP will keep him on the outside with the jab then take him down at will when Hendricks tries to throw the bomb.
Big fan of both fighters so looking forward to see how it plays out.

 

[waggy]

only issue i have with this fight is GSP is slower and does take more shots recently then i have seen. Hendricks has the power for that 1 shot KO.

Though i still think GSP takes it. his wrestling is good enough to avoid the takdowns and he is still fast enough to get off 1st and out of the way.

It should be a good fight. hell the card is majorly stacked

 

[bigrash]

I can't wait for this fight. Hendricks has had come crazy knock outs. But I think GSP will win it in the end.

 

[WiseUp216]

I definitely think GSP can get some takedowns but thinking he can stay on top and control Hendricks for 5 rounds is crazy-talk.

We just haven't seen George against this level of wrestler before. And no, Koscheck and Hughes aren't on the same level as Hendricks.

Also, don't forget that George isn't that far removed from major knee surgery and isn't getting any younger.

Collegiate wrestling

• National Collegiate Athletic Association
  • NCAA Division I All-American out of Oklahoma State University (2004), (2005), (2006), (2007)[32][32]
  • NCAA Division I 157 lb - 5th place out of Oklahoma State University (2004)[33]
  • NCAA Division I 165 lb - Champion out of Oklahoma State University (2005)[33]
  • NCAA Division I 165 lb - Champion out of Oklahoma State University (2006)[33]
  • NCAA Division I 165 lb - Runner-up out of Oklahoma State University (2007)[33]
  • Big 12 Conference Championship out of Oklahoma State University (2005), (2006), (2007)[34]

Amateur wrestling

• USA Junior Freestyle Championship[33]
  • USA Junior Freestyle Championship 165 1b - Winner out of Oklahoma (2001)[33]
  • USA Junior Freestyle Championship 165 1b - Winner out of Oklahoma (2002)[33]

 

[RagingBITCH]

I definitely think GSP can get some takedowns but thinking he can stay on top and control Hendricks for 5 rounds is crazy-talk.

We just haven't seen George against this level of wrestler before. And no, Koscheck and Hughes aren't on the same level as Hendricks.

Also, don't forget that George isn't that far removed from major knee surgery and isn't getting any younger.

Kosch was D1 All-American and went 42-0 in his junior year in a weight class above Hendrick. And GSP's surgery was well over a year ago and has a fight since then.

Hendrick is great and all, but if GSP can duck out of that one punch power (both KO's came 1st round), he can grind out his normal hump them for 5 rounds style.

I say that being a big fan of GSP, but all the while, growing tired of the GNP smothering made famous in the mid 2000's. I'd much rather see two guys just swing at each other for 5 rounds like Sanchez vs Melendez (or however many rds that fight was) but he's too smart to try to stand up and bang. He knows he's got it won as soon as he takes it to the ground. Johny throws a haymaker and ends up on his back. Repeat for 5 rounds.

 

[JEDI]

will it be 2 for 2 for long reigning champs to fall this year?
first Anderson Silva.

Gsp next?

 

[waggy]

I definitely think GSP can get some takedowns but thinking he can stay on top and control Hendricks for 5 rounds is crazy-talk.

We just haven't seen George against this level of wrestler before. And no, Koscheck and Hughes aren't on the same level as Hendricks.

Also, don't forget that George isn't that far removed from major knee surgery and isn't getting any younger.

whaaa? I hate kosheck but yes he is on the same level as Hendricks.

 

[Apex]

I'm thinking GSP grinds out a win.

 

[WaTaGuMp]

The judges might fall asleep during the GSP fight and forget to score it. It is a GSP fight, lets not forget.

 

[dennilfloss]

Has Hendricks finally agreed to stringent (Olympic-style) random drug testing or is he still evading this? GSP wants to clean the sport and even offered to pay for Hendricks's tests.

 

[randay]

Has Hendricks finally agreed to stringent (Olympic-style) random drug testing or is he still evading this? GSP wants to clean the sport and even offered to pay for Hendricks's tests.

nope, hendricks is dodging it of course. he cant knock out anyone without his juice.


bazinga.


GSP is the one who is dodging WADA testing, which was suggested by the athletic commision after hendricks brought up their "agreement". GSP is currently doing VADA testing. and i think hendricks is doing no testing. this is all from what ive read on the internets.

 

[randay]

and it makes sense, the testing organization has to be impartial, and if only one side is paying for the testing, then its impossible to be impartial i think. ufc should be paying for the testing in my opinion.

 

[RPD]

nope, hendricks is dodging it of course. he cant knock out anyone without his juice.


bazinga.


GSP is the one who is dodging WADA testing, which was suggested by the athletic commision after hendricks brought up their "agreement". GSP is currently doing VADA testing. and i think hendricks is doing no testing. this is all from what ive read on the internets.

You can't "dodge" WADA testing, WADA doesn't DO the testing, they set the rules. You know kinda like the rules VADA follows to conduct the testing. Don't buy into what Hendricks says about wanting to do WADA testing, he's completely mis-using the term. (I think I don't remember this correctly, re-reading some articles about the WADA/VADA stuff, will post an update when I find the article in question).

The only possible outcomes are Hendricks gets a KO in the first 2 rounds, but after that GSP wins with cardio.

Make no mistake about it, GSP will take Hendricks down. GSP has the best MMA wrestling in the biz.

 

[waggy]

and it makes sense, the testing organization has to be impartial, and if only one side is paying for the testing, then its impossible to be impartial i think. ufc should be paying for the testing in my opinion.

UFC does not want the test done. Look at guys like Belfort who is riding the TRT to a title shot and before that busted for roids.

you start better testing you lose popular guys.

 

[manimal]

UFC does not want the test done. Look at guys like Belfort who is riding the TRT to a title shot and before that busted for roids.

you start better testing you lose popular guys.

UFC should get ahead of it but I doubt they will upset the apple cart too much unless some big scandal hits. What They should be worried about is guys getting CTE in about 20 years but at the rate which they cut guys now they can blame the damage from the other organizations they fight for.


GSP will take it to the ground. JLH should work his jab and keep his hips square unless GSP gets hurt or out of position or he will get to the ground in his guard pretty fast. I would like to see some dirty boxing and standing knees from GSP. GSP still has the best timing in the ufc.

 

[Druidx]

UFC does not want the test done. Look at guys like Belfort who is riding the TRT to a title shot and before that busted for roids.

you start better testing you lose popular guys.

I'm sure that is why Belfort's last 5 fights have been outside the USA, since only the athletic comminsions in Brazil and Canada have given him a TRT exemption.

 

[randay]

UFC does not want the test done. Look at guys like Belfort who is riding the TRT to a title shot and before that busted for roids.

you start better testing you lose popular guys.

i think its worse for them in the end if all their fighters start getting popped for roids. i agree though that they are taking advantage of events in other countries, but honestly, it would be hard not to.

 

[randay]

You can't "dodge" WADA testing, WADA doesn't DO the testing, they set the rules. You know kinda like the rules VADA follows to conduct the testing. Don't buy into what Hendricks says about wanting to do WADA testing, he's completely mis-using the term. (I think I don't remember this correctly, re-reading some articles about the WADA/VADA stuff, will post an update when I find the article in question).

thats very interesting and i can see how that applies, but are you sure that WADA does not do any of the testing? they only set the rules? if so then yeah thats very misleading.

but i still think the fact that GSP is paying for the entire thing makes whoever is doing the testing untrustworthy to the athlete who isnt paying anything. hell it even brings GSPs results into question. payment and dissemination of the results should all be handled by a third party.

 

[WiseUp216]

I'm certainly willing to eat crow if GSP wins this. He is an athletic freak-of-nature, for sure.

That said, I truly don't believe that this is going to play out like a GSP fight usually does.

 

[RPD]

thats very interesting and i can see how that applies, but are you sure that WADA does not do any of the testing? they only set the rules? if so then yeah thats very misleading.

but i still think the fact that GSP is paying for the entire thing makes whoever is doing the testing untrustworthy to the athlete who isnt paying anything. hell it even brings GSPs results into question. payment and dissemination of the results should all be handled by a third party.

Ok I found it - http://www.mmafighting.com/2013/9/25/4765882/fired-up-georges-st-pierre-clarifies-wada-vada

This is GSP talking in an interview:

"First, let me educate you on the subject. WADA, it’s an organization that makes the guidelines. They make the guidelines for the testing association. VADA follows the guidelines of WADA. So when he said he wanted to be tested by WADA, there is no such thing. It’s an organization that makes the guidelines."

Now I take this at face value, I don't know if this is the case, but GSP isn't a type of guy to lie or make things up. But I haven't done any research myself to verify if this is true.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Gsp calling for testing.. That's rich.