UCLA Prof Calls For Mexican Revolt In America

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xj0hnx

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Amazing! Why are they here is the first place???

Capitalism is the enemy? It's what brought you here, dumbasses!

Seriously, if the US is so shitty, why not just home where things are so much better???

How fucking stupid can you be???

Hold on now, this could work out. Down with capitalism, no more money, no more jobs, no more ...illegals. Seriously though, this guy is the worse kind of exploitationist, he manipulates the ignorance of people he's claiming to support to further his own agenda. Sickening fuck is a teacher too? [Commodusthumbsdownpic][/Commodusthumbsdownpic]
 

Genx87

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Think I saw an Onion article on this a few years ago. It's title was "Southern California join Mexico" Then the summary said "Mexican migrants can been seen for miles walking north out of mexico."

This professor is a dumbass. These people left mexico for a reason. Does he really believe they want to rejoin the cesspool they left through force?
 

xj0hnx

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This professor is a dumbass. These people left mexico for a reason. Does he really believe they want to rejoin the cesspool they left through force?

He doesn't care one bit about Mexican immigrants, legal, or otherwise, he is race baiting to further his political, and social agenda. Every thinking human realizes illegals come here because there is money.
 

Svnla

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How did our country get to this point?

And we (well, at least the left/church/union/etc.) want more (millions - note the plural) ILLEGALS continuing to break FEDERAL law to get here? Do we want to give them ILLEGALS amnesty?

That's how our country gets to this point today.

As a first generation of LEGAL immigrant, this pisses me off so much. We LEGALS came here and worked our butts off to become US citzens and these ILLEGALS and their lovers/admirers have the nerve to advocate such bullcraps?
 
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Red Dawn

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And we (well, at least the left/church/union/etc.) want more (millions - note the plural) ILLEGALS continuing to break FEDERAL law to get here? Do we want to give them ILLEGALS amnesty?

That's how our country gets to this point today.

As a first generation of LEGAL immigrant, this pisses me off so much. We LEGALS came here and worked our butts off to become US citzens and these ILLEGALS and their lovers/admirers have the nerve to advocate such bullcraps?
Unions want them? Since when, those leeches take jobs away from Union members.
 

Svnla

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Unions want them? Since when, those leeches take jobs away from Union members.

You should know me better by now, RD. I don't post much in P&N except posts with immigration issues and I don't BS with hot air.

These unions:

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/may/01/300-in-reno-protest-arizona-immigration-law/

http://www.riograndeguardian.com/rggnews_story.asp?story_no=13

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/arizona.immigration.law.2.1669182.html

http://www.santafenewmexican.com/localnews/Groups-decry-Arizona--law--prepare-to-rally

http://www.scpr.org/news/2010/05/01/rallies-rage-in-wake-of-arizona-immigration-law/

I am more than glad to provide more links if need be. BTW, how is GB? Hope all are well with her and she still win money/free stuffs.
 

werepossum

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These two posts together somewhat encapsulate what I have been arguing for a long time--that Global Labor Arbitrage will transform us into an overpopulated, impoverished third world country. The wealthy who own the corporations want inexpensive labor, and so they either send capital overseas to produce products for import back into the United States, or they import poor foreigners into the United States. Foreign Outsourcing, H-1B and L-1 visas, and mass immigration reduces lower and middle class Americans' incomes. Mass immigration also works to transform the nation's culture--in this case--from that of a once prosperous first world nation to something more akin to Mexico. So not only are economic pressures (decimation of the middle class) causing the transformation, but there is also cultural pressure. That is to say, we are bringing in millions of people who, because of their sheer numbers and the destruction of the U.S. economy will not be able to become part of the American middle class culture, but who are also already fully accustomed to having a third world culture.

Another excellent post, thanks.

As a person consumed with self hate but in deep denial, I need constant agitation. I need to feel as if the world is out to get me and that I am in constant danger. I need this because as a worthless nobody, I need to create a sense of self importance and potency to counteract how I really feel. My fear, my terror, my anger and rage, these give me a sense of meaning. Finally and at last I can really be somebody and here I have friends who feel just like me, worthless and insignificant. One hen clucking doesn't raise much of a din, but here we can gather and form a clucking symphony.
So you have no problem with a man calling for race-based armed rebellion but do take issue with someone noting same on ATP&N? Nice. You know dosages are there for a reason . . .

One thing - La Raza isn't agitating for more land for Mexico, but for a third country of Hispanic brown purity, a country which would put any Central or South American country to shame in repression and socialism with La Raza acting as its self-selecting leaders. Mexico might well be drawn into a war if armed rebellion broke out, to protect Mexican lives, but La Raza's push is its own, for power.

That said, I would be surprised if within the next few decades southern California and parts of Arizona and Texas aren't given at least a limited autonomous self-rule, Spanish speaking and largely independent of state and federal power. It's a very strong movement, with US tax money supporting anti-US and anti-capitalism propaganda and many folks of Hispanic origin (not to mention illegals) identifying with Mexico and Central/South America rather than with America.
 

Red Dawn

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You should know me better by now, RD. I don't post much in P&N except posts with immigration issues and I don't BS with hot air.

These unions:

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/may/01/300-in-reno-protest-arizona-immigration-law/

http://www.riograndeguardian.com/rggnews_story.asp?story_no=13

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/arizona.immigration.law.2.1669182.html

http://www.santafenewmexican.com/localnews/Groups-decry-Arizona--law--prepare-to-rally

http://www.scpr.org/news/2010/05/01/rallies-rage-in-wake-of-arizona-immigration-law/

I am more than glad to provide more links if need be. BTW, how is GB? Hope all are well with her and she still win money/free stuffs.

I can see your confusion, most of those Unions are protesting the law due to the likelihood it would increase Civil Rights abuses against Hispanic Americans or legal immigrants by racial profiling (the reason I'm against it). The confusion comes due to the fact that also protesting this law are those who feel undocumented immigrants deserve the same kind of rights afforded to American citizens (which I'm against).

Personally I'm against any amnesty for illegals and feel that the borders need to be more secured. Hell I'm even against giving those born in this country to those who are here illegally American Citizenship.
 

cwjerome

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That said, I would be surprised if within the next few decades southern California and parts of Arizona and Texas aren't given at least a limited autonomous self-rule, Spanish speaking and largely independent of state and federal power. It's a very strong movement, with US tax money supporting anti-US and anti-capitalism propaganda and many folks of Hispanic origin (not to mention illegals) identifying with Mexico and Central/South America rather than with America.

10 years ago I would have said that's stupid. But in a time when political correctness reigns supreme and unabashed political exploitation is the rule, I'm not so sure. When common sense laws are created/enforced for dealing with people in this country illegally (and the problems this brings) because people are paralyzed by fear of racial profiling, then maybe it's just a matter of time.
 

Svnla

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I can see your confusion, most of those Unions are protesting the law due to the likelihood it would increase Civil Rights abuses against Hispanic Americans or legal immigrants by racial profiling.... .

There is no confusion. Let take a closer look at the "true" reasons why those entities are against AZ immigration law (in which it is mirroring the existing immigration Federal laws).

Let call it is what it is, a shameless pandering from Democrat party, Catholic Church, and Unions (of course, not all of them and GOP is guilty also, ie. Amnesty program in 1986).

1) Democrat party: amnesty/path to citizenship = more votes for their party. ILLEGALS that become citizens won't vote for GOP for sure. A no brainer.

2) Catholic Church: amnesty/path to citizenship = more parishioners. Why Catholic church and not other denominations? Hummmmm...sure make you wondering... because 70% of Hispanics are Catholics (Newsweek magazine 5/10/10). Gotta get more new blood to replace those are leaving from all the scandals.

3) Unions: amnesty/path to citizenship = more memberships. It is not a secret that memberships from ALL unions are down compare to their heyday of the 50's-60s. Gotta build back the rank and file = more membership fees, more power to lobby.
 
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I can see your confusion, most of those Unions are protesting the law due to the likelihood it would increase Civil Rights abuses against Hispanic Americans or legal immigrants by racial profiling (the reason I'm against it). The confusion comes due to the fact that also protesting this law are those who feel undocumented immigrants deserve the same kind of rights afforded to American citizens (which I'm against).

Personally I'm against any amnesty for illegals and feel that the borders need to be more secured. Hell I'm even against giving those born in this country to those who are here illegally American Citizenship.

When are we ging to get it straight. It isn't racial profiling. It's nationality profiling. Racial profiling is saying you can't be here because of your skin color. Nationality profiling is saying you can't be here because you didn't enter the country legally.

Is it racial profiling when a victim of a crime say a black guy mugged him and stole his wallet, so the cops look for a black guy? It's the same thing here. You have a known general description of a person(s) that are breaking the law. ID them and go.

Besides, if anyone is operating a motor vehicle in most states, when you agreed to get your licesne you also agreed to provide it to a LEO upon request as it is not actually your property but the states property as it grants you permission to operate a motor vehicle on their roads.
I don't think cops should just walk through a mall asking for ID, but if you get pulled over, don't speak English and can't present a valid ID, you get you ass taken and dropped off on the other side of the boarder. Though I'd prefer it be measured in nautical miles as far as where they drop you off.
 

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I don't see how you guys can be against minimum wage earning, hard working illegal immigrants. My standard of living is directly influenced, for the better, by these illegal immigrants helping bring prices down with their low cost labor.

If I could kick about 100 million American citizens out of this country, and replace them with a caste of illegal laborers, I would in a heartbeat.

You should show your gratitude and fight side by side with them. Better yet invite a few to live in your home with you.
 

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As a person consumed with self hate but in deep denial, I need constant agitation. I need to feel as if the world is out to get me and that I am in constant danger. I need this because as a worthless nobody, I need to create a sense of self importance and potency to counteract how I really feel. My fear, my terror, my anger and rage, these give me a sense of meaning. Finally and at last I can really be somebody and here I have friends who feel just like me, worthless and insignificant. One hen clucking doesn't raise much of a din, but here we can gather and form a clucking symphony.

So which side are you referring to???
 

cwjerome

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Topic: UCLA Prof Calls For Mexican Revolt In America

Dude must really hate brown people...
 

werepossum

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10 years ago I would have said that's stupid. But in a time when political correctness reigns supreme and unabashed political exploitation is the rule, I'm not so sure. When common sense laws are created/enforced for dealing with people in this country illegally (and the problems this brings) because people are paralyzed by fear of racial profiling, then maybe it's just a matter of time.

10 years ago I would have said that's stupid. 10 years ago we would both have been right, too, just unable to recognize the forces then working to isolate Hispanics from mainstream American culture.
 

Danube

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Unions want them? Since when, those leeches take jobs away from Union members.

SEIU is particularly eager to get illegals in unions and voting.

Last year, Eliseo Medina, international executive vice-president of SEIU said "We reform the immigration laws, it puts 12 million people on the path to citizenship and eventually voters...Can you imagine if we have, even the same ratio, two out of three? Can you imagine 8 million new voters who care about our issues and will be voting? We will be creating a governing coalition for the long term, not just for an election cycle."

SEIU isn't narrowly focused on jobs for citizens. They want to convert the whole architecture of the country to be in the drivers seat.