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CU

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When I search the package manager for gparted it isn't listed. Why is this? This is a fresh default install of Ubuntu 8.10.
 

CU

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Yeah, I think it should but it doesn't show up. The gui package manager doesn't show it when I search for it. Also, when I type sudo apt-get install gparted in the terminal I get:
Reading package lists...Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information...Done
Package gparted is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that it is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
E: Package gparted has no installation candidate

Why isn't this installed by default anyway? I would think just about everyone has to format a drive at some point in time.
 

Nothinman

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I generally use fdisk and mkfs whenever I partition and format drives so I would guess that's what they consider the default. I'd only really consider parted or gparted if I was making a GPT disk or something.

Anyway, what happens if you run 'aptitude update;aptitude install gparted'.
 

compman25

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Under Software Sources do you have everything checked under "Downloadable from the Internet"?
 

CU

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I think so I will check it tonight. I know I didn't change anything, when I first tried it so it was all set to default from the fresh install. I would think default would be all checked if that is what is needed.
 

SickBeast

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It's labeled as "Gnome Partition Editor" on Add/Remove programs in Ubuntu.

Maybe that's why.
 

CU

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Well for some reason it started showing up. Maybe I couldn't connect to the update servers or something when I tried before.

Now my other question is why when I mount the drive from within the Ubuntu Place menu it is mounted where I can't write to it. I formatted it why don't I have permissions? How do I fix that?
 

Nothinman

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Is it a new filesystem that you formatted ext3? By default it's owned by root:root so you need to fix the permissions on it. I'm not 100% sure but I think there's a root/admin version of Nautilus somewhere in the Ubuntu menus.
 

CU

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The drive was a NTFS drive that was formated to ext3. I will look for a admin version of Nautilus, thanks.

P.S. I know I could do most of this stuff by the command line, but I am trying to learn the gui elements of Ubuntu. So far I think linux still has along way to go on the gui side. Why not just handle it more like windows. Right click drive / partition manager / pick filesystem, user permissions, etc / click format. That seems very simple. Instead of download gparted / unmount drive if mounted / run gparted / select drive / pick filesystem, etc / click apply / change permission some how hopefully in an admin version of Nautilus somewhere.
 

Nothinman

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Right click drive / partition manager / pick filesystem, user permissions, etc / click format

You can do that in Nautilus, but you can't change permissions on something you don't own so you need to run it as an admin.

Instead of download gparted / unmount drive if mounted / run gparted / select drive / pick filesystem, etc / click apply /

That's all pretty much the same process in Windows except you're doing it in Disk Management instead of gparted.
 

Warthog912

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In my experience, the best way to make major filesystem changes (major as in something an OS,including running OS, is located on) boot from the Live cd, terminal : sudo gparted, and go from there.
 

CU

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Originally posted by: Nothinman
Right click drive / partition manager / pick filesystem, user permissions, etc / click format

You can do that in Nautilus, but you can't change permissions on something you don't own so you need to run it as an admin.

Really. Maybe I don't know what Nautilus is then? Is it the gui shell ie explorer in XP? Because when I right click on the drive icon on the desktop of a mounted drive I just mounted using the place / mount drive menu, I don't see a format option. How do I run Nautilus as root. I don't remember the install asking me to create a root account.

Originally posted by: Nothinman
Instead of download gparted / unmount drive if mounted / run gparted / select drive / pick filesystem, etc / click apply /

That's all pretty much the same process in Windows except you're doing it in Disk Management instead of gparted.

True, and the longer process is why I don't use it to do just a format.

 

Nothinman

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Really. Maybe I don't know what Nautilus is then? Is it the gui shell ie explorer in XP? Because when I right click on the drive icon on the desktop of a mounted drive I just mounted using the place / mount drive menu, I don't see a format option. How do I run Nautilus as root. I don't remember the install asking me to create a root account.

Yes, Nautilus is the explorer equivalent for Gnome. I'm not sure how the drive icons work though, they may be special. I don't use a full Gnome desktop, I just opened Nautilus and looked at a directory to see the permissions tab.

Every Linux system has a root account, it doesn't have a password by default in Ubuntu though as you're supposed to use sudo. I believe there's an icon to start nautilus via gksu though to get you a root file manager.
 

lxskllr

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Originally posted by: Nothinman


You can do that in Nautilus, but you can't change permissions on something you don't own so you need to run it as an admin.

It would require a little cli, but wouldn't gksudo nautilus work?
 

Nothinman

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It would require a little cli, but wouldn't gksudo nautilus work?

Yea and I'm pretty sure there's an icon that does just that in the menus somewhere but I have no idea where since I don't run Ubuntu or Gnome.
 

lxskllr

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Originally posted by: Nothinman
It would require a little cli, but wouldn't gksudo nautilus work?

Yea and I'm pretty sure there's an icon that does just that in the menus somewhere but I have no idea where since I don't run Ubuntu or Gnome.

I don't think it's in there. I've torn the menus apart looking for such a thing without luck. I imagine it would be easy to create, but near as I can tell, there's nothing there in he default loadout.