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BurntCpu

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So 4th of july Weekend and I'm bored. What did I decide to do? See what all the hoopla is with this linux I keep hearing about. Finally decided on Ubuntu which I found while using Stumble. Dowloaded live cd, did the partition magic thing and whala had a linux partition and swapfile partition. Installation went well. So the first thing I do as with windows xp is deal with firewall and virus setup. Went to Dslreports for some security checks that just happens to need java installed. Found sun java after enabling unsupported repository tried to install it, got error "unsupported architecture" so i downloaded it from sun's web site and still won't install . even tried the "fakeroot make-jpk jre-1_5..........-linux-i586.bin ( command make not a valid command ). Has anyone here got sun java to work on their
Amd64 system? What's the procedure? TIA
 
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Did you install the amd64 version of Ubuntu and try to install the ix86 version of Java?
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i think so, because I tried to in stall jre-1_5_0_07-linux-amd64-rpm.bin and that diddn't work either.
 
I am not familiar with Ubuntu environment, however, if you use the package from java.sun.com:

those *.bin files are a "self-extracting" executable files.
You need to extracte it first:

chmod +x jre-1_5_0_07-linux-amd64-rpm.bin
./jre-1_5_0_07-linux-amd64-rpm.bin

I guess it will generate a RPM package file, which then can be installed with RPM tools.
However, I don't know if Ubuntu supports RPM, its native package format is DPG

Or, if you download jre-1_5_0_07-linux-amd64.bin, you don't even need to install any package
after execute the file (same command) in a directory you want to put all the files under.

I am not a typical Linux user, others may have more detailed instructions on Ubuntu for you.

I suppose Ubuntu should have a natively-packaged JDK/JRE on major platforms by now.
They're the first one to support Sun's latest move to make distributing Java easier on Linux.
 
I guess it will generate a RPM package file, which then can be installed with RPM tools.
However, I don't know if Ubuntu supports RPM, its native package format is DPG
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You can use the "alien" command to generate a Deb Package.

If you don't have "alien" Package installed, Do this in Terminal "sudo apt-get install alien" or use Synaptic Package Manager and search for alien, either way will work.

To generate a Deb Package, Use this command "sudo alien -k ThePackageName.rpm"
This will generate a Deb Package .
 
Originally posted by: BurntCpu
I've done that up to step 15, when I click on it won't let me click apply
it just pops up with "unsuported architecture"
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Do it from the command line and let us know what error you get there.
 
thanks everyone for their assistance.

and to thesix chmod +x jre-1_5_0_07-linux-amd64-rpm.bin
worked perfectly thanks a million
problem solved, only thing left is to integate it into browser
i've alread printed those instructions out.
 
AMD64 version of java does not have a browser plugin. If you need java you will have to either
a) install the x86 version of java either nativly or in a chroot
b) use blackdown's version of java (1.4 because there is no 1.5 yet for blackdown)

If you choose the x86 version, you will then have to use a 32bit web browser or konqueror web browser (or find one of the wrapper scripts for firefox) in order to use the plugin.

I have no idea why sun refuses to release a 64bit version of the java web plugin.
 
> I have no idea why sun refuses to release a 64bit version of the java web plugin.

I am curious too, there must be some technical reason.
There's no 64bit Flash plugin either, last time I looked.

However, what's the benefit of running a 64bit web browser? (besides wasting more memory?)
and why would they make 64bit Firefox the default, knowing the absence of plugins?
 
Originally posted by: sourceninja
I have no idea why sun refuses to release a 64bit version of the java web plugin.
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How about jrockit? There's a 64bit version for linux, just don't know about the plugin...
 
The reason for running a 64bit version of firefox is simply because some apps depend on firefox in linux. Why have 2 versions of the same browser installed?
 
Originally posted by: sourceninja
The reason for running a 64bit version of firefox is simply because some apps depend on firefox in linux. Why have 2 versions of the same browser installed?
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Let me put it more bluntly, borrowing your lines:

Why have 2 versions of the same browser installed, when the 32bit version does everything 64bit does, plus more (Java, Flush) and bettter (using less memory) ? and what the heck were they thinking to even make 64bit version the default ? 🙂

 
Well, the reason is simply no one has build a linux distro with a 64bit kernel and 32bit userspace. So because gnome is 64bit and parts of it depend on firefox, firefox needs to be 64bit as well (or some other 64bit web browser that gnome can depend on). Either way you have a 64bit web browser installed, so why not use it?
 
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