Ubuntu is killing your Laptops Hard drive

[ciproxr]

I posted an article on digg

http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubu...our_Laptops_Hard_Drive

please check it out and help raise some awareness

 

[Nothinman]

From what I remember from reading various lkml threads about this is that it depends on the drive and while it does put additional wear on the drive it's not as big of a deal as people are making it out to be.

 

[Brazen]

Sensationalism FTL!

 

[thorin]

So where are the links to the bug reports/supporting information?

 

[Nothinman]

Um, here? https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/63937

 

[thorin]

Looks like you just need to patch/upgrade.

http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7396
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7838

 

[xtknight]

The patch is in kernel 2.6.22 stable, which Ubuntu Gutsy's kernel is based off of. But I can't say if the problem is actually fixed or not.

http://www.eu.kernel.org/pub/l.../v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.22
(search "spindown")

Also it seems to be in the Ubuntu kernel itself:

zcat /usr/share/doc/linux-image-2.6.22-12-generic/changelog.Debian.gz |grep spindown
* libata: track spindown status and skip spindown_compat if possible
* libata: remove libata.spindown_compat

Maybe something else must be done to ensure that it works for Gutsy, though.

He is primarily talking about this bug:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/104535

No idea of that status of that either.

 

[ciproxr]

xtknight I installed gutsy beta with 2.6.22 on my inspiron 1501 and it seemed worse as far as this problem that is, much more activity and it makes a weird noise that i didnt get with feisty. Its ashame the developers arent taking this seriously and god forbid the fanboys admit this is a problem. Ubuntu is suppose to save you money not cost you more in the log run by messing up your hardrive.

it only does this with laptops as far as i know, my desktop seems to run fine without problems.

 

[Nothinman]

Its ashame the developers arent taking this seriously and god forbid the fanboys admit this is a problem. Ubuntu is suppose to save you money not cost you more in the log run by messing up your hardrive.

Please point to the lkml message/thread where the developers talk the problem down because I can find a few threads where they are actively debugging it with someone who has a machine showing the symptoms.

it only does this with laptops as far as i know, my desktop seems to run fine without problems.

That's because it varies per-drive, it doesn't affect everyone and does affect some desktop drives as well IIRC.

 

[ciproxr]

Please point to the lkml message/thread where the developers talk the problem down because I can find a few threads where they are actively debugging it with someone who has a machine showing the symptoms.
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they dont have to talk it down, the image below shows its not being taken seriously, so manny people are reported the same problem since January and still nothing have been done about it.

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/104535">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/104535</a>

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/9352/kkkkbm8.jpg

i circled it for you

 

[Fox5]

Heh, Vista has the same "problem" on my laptop. Its indexer service in constantly running and caching data off my harddrive causing "clicking" noises.

 

[Nothinman]

Heh, Vista has the same "problem" on my laptop. Its indexer service in constantly running and caching data off my harddrive causing "clicking" noises.

Those are different clicking noises.

 

[Robor]

This isn't something new. It was posted on 7/24/07 on UbuntuForums.org... HERE

 

[ciproxr]

Robor that issue was fixed in the latest kernel , i can verify that, even though feisty users are still affected till they upgrade to gutsy, however their power management settings still need to be fixed

 

[Robor]

Well it's October so Gutsy should be out soon.