Ubuntu Edgy Eft Scheduled for Release Tomorrow

[jonessoda]

Man, even the .torrent file must be overloaded, because I can't even access that to download it and start BTing the thing.

Edit: finally got the torrent, pulling down b/w 2 and 12 kbps. Like I've said before, frigging dorm internet connections.

Edit: Now at 79%, ETA 8:30 PM EDT, speed ~40kbps. I don't know if I'll be able to seed; it's devastating my connection speed and I have a research project I desperately need to work on.

 

[nweaver]

seemed ok to me (one false start)

Pushing that torrent up now (downloading is finished) at 4MB/s (yes, that's a big B)

 

[Brazen]

Originally posted by: nweaver

SSH is the hands down best remote access protocol in the world...

Right on. :thumbsup:

Originally posted by: nweaver

Originally posted by: Megatomic

Originally posted by: nweaver

do those both work out of box with XP, no dirver installs, no configuration required??

Yes for the ATI card,

Your ATI card works, full rez, out of box install? 3D support and all?

Yeah, I'm gonna have to call shens on that one. My ATI 9800XT doesn't even support any resolution on XP other than 800x600 out of the box, and definately no 3d support. That's actually worse than on any linux distros I've played with on that computer, since linux will at least support the full range of resolutions, right out of the box, just no 3d.

 

[tatteredpotato]

How would one go about upgrading from RC to Release versions? sudo apt-get dist-upgrade doesnt work, and nothing shows up in the update manager.

 

[Brazen]

Originally posted by: BlameCanada
How would one go about upgrading from RC to Release versions? sudo apt-get dist-upgrade doesnt work, and nothing shows up in the update manager.

run this:

gksu "update-manager -c"

 

[tatteredpotato]

Originally posted by: Brazen

Originally posted by: BlameCanada
How would one go about upgrading from RC to Release versions? sudo apt-get dist-upgrade doesnt work, and nothing shows up in the update manager.

run this:

gksu "update-manager -c"

That says I'm up to date, I updated about 25 packages yesterday, is it possible they put the updates up early?

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

Originally posted by: BlameCanada

Originally posted by: Brazen

Originally posted by: BlameCanada
How would one go about upgrading from RC to Release versions? sudo apt-get dist-upgrade doesnt work, and nothing shows up in the update manager.

run this:

gksu "update-manager -c"

That says I'm up to date, I updated about 25 packages yesterday, is it possible they put the updates up early?

I think I read somewhere that nothing changed since yesterday so you should be running the final version.

 

[XBoxLPU]

Originally posted by: BlameCanada
How would one go about upgrading from RC to Release versions? sudo apt-get dist-upgrade doesnt work, and nothing shows up in the update manager.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades

So what is new from 6.06?

 

[xeemzor]

Originally posted by: XBoxLPU

Originally posted by: BlameCanada
How would one go about upgrading from RC to Release versions? sudo apt-get dist-upgrade doesnt work, and nothing shows up in the update manager.

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades</a>

So what is new from 6.06?

Edgy Release Notes

 

[Megatomic]

Originally posted by: Brazen

Originally posted by: nweaver

SSH is the hands down best remote access protocol in the world...

Right on. :thumbsup:

Originally posted by: nweaver

Originally posted by: Megatomic

Originally posted by: nweaver

do those both work out of box with XP, no dirver installs, no configuration required??

Yes for the ATI card,

Your ATI card works, full rez, out of box install? 3D support and all?

Yeah, I'm gonna have to call shens on that one. My ATI 9800XT doesn't even support any resolution on XP other than 800x600 out of the box, and definately no 3d support. That's actually worse than on any linux distros I've played with on that computer, since linux will at least support the full range of resolutions, right out of the box, just no 3d.

Even if it doesn't, Ubuntu 6.10 is a "new" OS whereas WinXP is not. Perhaps once SP3 comes out, or even of more relevance, Vista, then some direct comparison can be made.

Like I said though, I like Ubuntu, I truly do. I'll be using it on my desktop once I get an NVidia card (until I get my Macbook in January).

 

[namityadav]

I can't believe it when people convince themselves (and others) by trolling that this is "2006" and Ubuntu (Or insert any other Linux distro here) still doesn't find their wireless card / display card automatically... so that they can hide behind the slow / bloated / insecure / totally non-customizable mess that is Windows.

First of all, it's not the distro (Or developer) that should get you drivers for every hardware there is. It should be the hardware manufacturer (Or you, because it is you who bought the crap) !! Blame Broadcom, Linksys or ATI etc if you can't get a hardware working in Linux. Better still, be smart and buy hardware that's supported everywhere. I do not want to be told by gadget manufacturers about what Operating System I should use. All of them should follow the standards of their domain if they want me as a customer.

The fact is that good Linux distro support a lot more hardware devices out of the box than Windows. And the people working on such distros do it for you for FREE !! And instead of trying to understand what's wrong, all that smart-asses can say is "Come on ! It's 2006 already .. where's my driver on Linux".If you can't develop a driver yourself, at least help the developers find the problems instead of blaming them.

Truth is that over a period of time, you end up wasting a lot more money, time and energy if you are using Windows (compared to Linux). My productivity increased so much when I decided to go all Ubuntu instead of running it on dual-boot or through virtualization. Because now I don't care about A/V applications updating every now and then, firewalls asking to enable/disable every application, spywares doing their own updates, Outlook taking 2.34 seconds in opening every window etc. And a fairly new computer user like my wife (Who didn't have any pre-notions about Windows or Linux) finds Linux much more hessle free and easy to use.

So once again, be a more informed hardware buyer and only then will you realize what "free as in speech" means. You can't really review Linux just by running a Live CD or on the basis of your memory from those "To install Slackware, first create a boot disk" days.

 

[jazzboy]

I'm not complaining that Ubuntu/Linux doesn't detect my wireless (and even if I were, I hardly consider that trolling, thank you). What I am saying is that having to do compiling just to get a driver installed isn't my cup of tea.

 

[drag]

Yeah, I'm gonna have to call shens on that one. My ATI 9800XT doesn't even support any resolution on XP other than 800x600 out of the box, and definately no 3d support. That's actually worse than on any linux distros I've played with on that computer, since linux will at least support the full range of resolutions, right out of the box, just no 3d.

Even if it doesn't, Ubuntu 6.10 is a "new" OS whereas WinXP is not. Perhaps once SP3 comes out, or even of more relevance, Vista, then some direct comparison can be made.[/quote]

Ya, I am sure that when Ubuntu comes out for the Sony Playstation 3 a more direct relationship can be drawn between that and Vista.

Like I said though, I like Ubuntu, I truly do. I'll be using it on my desktop once I get an NVidia card (until I get my Macbook in January).

Bah, Screw Apple. Get a system76 book instead.

 

[Megatomic]

Originally posted by: drag

Like I said though, I like Ubuntu, I truly do. I'll be using it on my desktop once I get an NVidia card (until I get my Macbook in January).

Bah, Screw Apple. Get a system76 book instead.

I'll have to google that one, never heard of it. But I'll probably still get a Macbook and be done with it. Especially if the rumors are true and Apple goes with Merom chips!

I downloaded my copy of Kubuntu Edgy Eft last night and I'm attempting to get a Geforce card for my desktop. As soon as I get one I'm wiping XP and going with Kubuntu until I get my Macbook. I can do everything in Kubuntu that I currently do in XP now that I don't waste my time gaming anymore. And I can't wait to try my hand at getting Beryl/compiz running. From what I've seen it's gonna be slick.

 

[Brazen]

Originally posted by: Megatomic

Even if it doesn't, Ubuntu 6.10 is a "new" OS whereas WinXP is not. Perhaps once SP3 comes out, or even of more relevance, Vista, then some direct comparison can be made.

Like I said though, I like Ubuntu, I truly do. I'll be using it on my desktop once I get an NVidia card (until I get my Macbook in January).

I never said it was a direct comparison. You were the one comparing XP's support for ATI cards to Ubuntu's support for ATI cards.

 

[Megatomic]

Originally posted by: Brazen

Originally posted by: Megatomic

Even if it doesn't, Ubuntu 6.10 is a "new" OS whereas WinXP is not. Perhaps once SP3 comes out, or even of more relevance, Vista, then some direct comparison can be made.

Like I said though, I like Ubuntu, I truly do. I'll be using it on my desktop once I get an NVidia card (until I get my Macbook in January).

I never said it was a direct comparison. You were the one comparing XP's support for ATI cards to Ubuntu's support for ATI cards.

No, that was nweaver. When I "ranted" about it I never even mentioned XP. I just expressed my desire for the developers to concentrate more on hardware support rather than on artwork and wallpapers and such things.

 

[Brazen]

Ok, so right now I am so. freaking. aggravated. with Ubuntu Edgy. So I've been using Ubuntu Dapper with ndiswrapper since Dapper came out (broadcom wireless), since I could not get the native drivers to work. Well, last week I updated to the Edgy RC and decided to give the native driver a try, and IT WORKED!! I was ecstatic.

Just to make sure I knew just how I got it working, I wiped it out (was going to anyway to try out FC6), reloaded Dapper and immediately updated to Edgy RC. Tried out the native driver, still working like a charm, no issues whatsoever. FC6 comes out, I wipe and install it. I follow the same instructions for getting the native driver to work as I did on Ubuntu, and it works in FC6 also!

Ok, great. But I didn't like FC6 as much as I was liking Ubuntu, so Edgy goes final and I download and burn a CD. I install Edgy final, follow the exact same instructions as I did for Edgy RC and FC6.... and no worky. I don't get it?! So I try to go back to using ndiswrapper, and IT doesn't work! So I wipe out and start over and retry ndiswrapper, still no good. I'm not happy about this.

 

[Brazen]

Originally posted by: namityadav

The fact is that good Linux distro support a lot more hardware devices out of the box than Windows. And the people working on such distros do it for you for FREE !!

Well, actually many do it for free, but I believe Linus and the kernel team have corporate sponsorship, largely from IBM IIRC.

Also Redhat gets paid through support contracts, and the Ubuntu developers get paid basically from Mark Shuttleworth's pocketbook, both of which provide many upstream patches.

 

[nweaver]

I'm thinking Edgy might be about 2 weeks early...my ATI card is giving me fits, I was hoping to run Beryl...

 

[Brazen]

Originally posted by: nweaver
I'm thinking Edgy might be about 2 weeks early...my ATI card is giving me fits, I was hoping to run Beryl...

I just can't believe it worked in the RC and now it doesn't. But yeah maybe if I wait a few weeks. This may have been a "regression" that will get fixed. I need to send this cr@ppy laptop back to get the battery replaced anyway, maybe now would be a good time to do that.

 

[InlineFive]

The boot times are nice but now Apache is broken with vmware.httpd.

 

[Brazen]

Originally posted by: InlineFive
The boot times are nice but now Apache is broken with vmware.httpd.

Just the VMWare web console is broken? What about regular Apache?

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: nweaver
I'm thinking Edgy might be about 2 weeks early...my ATI card is giving me fits, I was hoping to run Beryl...

What ATI card? I got my 9800 Pro working in my 'server' system (in my sig). It's very slick and runs smooth enough (~280 FPS in the Beryl Settings benchmark) to be functional and no crashes so far. However, on my T42 (also in my sig) it's so slow that I can't tolerate it. The Beryl Settings tool says about 80 FPS. I'm hoping I've got something wrong in my configuration on my T42 because I really like Beryl/AiGLX.

 

[nweaver]

fresh install (instead of update) and it's back and running with fglrx driver. It's an M300 card. Installing Beryl right now, but the repo's seem slow tonight

 

[jonessoda]

I tried doing a fresh install with 6.10 and as soon as I configured fglrx and tried resetting, it wouldn't boot. But my sound was working. So it's a tradeoff; I can stick with dapper and have no sound but full resolution and 3d, or I can go to Edgy and have low res and sound.