Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) Final Release

[Brazen]

This is to let you readers know that Ubuntu 8.10 has been released as Final. I also want to encourage you to download via torrent files. If I remember correctly, right after previous releases, it would take 24 hours to download directly from the heavily loaded Ubuntu mirrors, but you could get a torrent in about an hour. The cool thing about torrents is, when there is heavy downloading of the torrent, it actually goes faster for everyone. In fact, in the 10 minutes it took me to write this post, Ubuntu desktop iso is 100% downloaded.

Anyway, if you don't have a torrent program, check out uTorrent on Windows. Then download your choice of torrent files below and load them into uTorrent.

Ubuntu
32bit Desktop install CD/LiveCD
32bit "Alternate" install CD
32bit Server install CD

64bit Desktop install CD/LiveCD
64bit "Alternate" install CD
64bit Server install CD

Xubuntu
32bit Desktop install CD/LiveCD
32bit "Alternate" install CD

64bit Desktop install CD/LiveCD
64bit "Alternate" install CD

Kubuntu
32bit Desktop install CD/LiveCD
32bit "Alternate" install CD

64bit Desktop install CD/LiveCD
64bit "Alternate" install CD

md5sums (Ubuntu, Kubuntu)
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ea6d44667ea3fd435954d6e1f0e89122 *ubuntu-8.10-alternate-amd64.iso
f9e0494e91abb2de4929ef6e957f7753 *ubuntu-8.10-alternate-i386.iso
f9cdb7e9ad85263dde17f8fc81a6305b *ubuntu-8.10-desktop-amd64.iso
24ea1163ea6c9f5dae77de8c49ee7c03 *ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso
e3028a105a083339be8e5af5afbe7444 *ubuntu-8.10-server-amd64.iso
a2ec9975a91e1228c8292ed9799dc302 *ubuntu-8.10-server-i386.iso
2796c696ab368415a30fddc8278e08b0 *wubi.exe

4dc5bad5ee18648cd9dfbb87d86880b5 *kubuntu-8.10-alternate-amd64.iso
04a2c5c8f394175e6d6579e626995c7a *kubuntu-8.10-alternate-i386.iso
824de6bea59d41637a41f17c00d33f7d *kubuntu-8.10-desktop-amd64.iso
82c02dc7386dfb6858a9ec09a5059e1e *kubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso
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(oddly, I could not find md5sums from Canonical for Xubuntu for this release)

After downloading, it is prudent (and simple and easy) to check the md5sum. Try winmd5sum on Windows or run 'md5sum filename' on the linux command line.

NOTE: These are good links, but the Ubuntu servers are really loaded down right now, so even getting the torrent file is being problematic. Just be patient, and trying to browse the Ubuntu website is only going to add to the problem. I've actually had the best luck using 'wget' to download the torrent files, so try that if you have access to a linux machine.

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[Brazen]

all the links are good now.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Decided to get the 64bit version - kinda stinks because now I have to format and reinstall. Haven't had to reinstall since 7.10 too...

I'm kind of nervous about the 64bit version though. In the past when I have tried it, support wasn't nearly as good for it (Drivers and otherwise)

-Kevin

 

[Brazen]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Decided to get the 64bit version - kinda stinks because now I have to format and reinstall. Haven't had to reinstall since 7.10 too...

I'm kind of nervous about the 64bit version though. In the past when I have tried it, support wasn't nearly as good for it (Drivers and otherwise)

-Kevin

I use 64-bit Hardy on many of my servers because of the RAM limit and I really can't tell a difference other than the 64-bit on the same hardware seems to be a tad bit more responsive.

I'm still using 32-bit on my laptop though. I'm not even sure if it supports 64-bit.

 

[trmiv]

Upgrading my work machine as I type this. I may wait awhile on my home machine though.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Oh wow - 64bit Flash player 10 works 100%. All the CSS and Flash work together - the CSS shows up in front like it should!!!!!!

Pidgin is integrated into the desktop now which is neat, but when I close Pidgin I wish it would minimize even though I disabled the icon there.

AWN is now in the Universe repository.... this is a great release so far.

 

[Czar]

What is the difference between Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Kubuntu

 

[Brainonska511]

Originally posted by: Czar
What is the difference between Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Kubuntu

Ubuntu uses the Gnome desktop
Kubuntu uses the KDE desktop
Xubuntu is for older/slower machines (IIRC)

 

[Czar]

Which is more fun, gnome or kde?

 

[Brainonska511]

Originally posted by: Czar
Which is more fun, gnome or kde?

I've only used KDE once, so not long enough to get a good feel for it.

I'm using Ubuntu 8.04 (and installing 8.10 this weekend) so it's the Gnome interface for me.

 

[Czar]

ok cool, either way would be nice I guess

With the live cd I could have a look before installing right?

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Czar
ok cool, either way would be nice I guess

With the live cd I could have a look before installing right?

Yep. And if you change your mind you can just install both or uninstall one and install the other. They are only Desktop Managers - nothing you cant install or uninstall.

-Kevin

 

[Czar]

nice, going to give this a go

 

[xSauronx]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Decided to get the 64bit version - kinda stinks because now I have to format and reinstall. Haven't had to reinstall since 7.10 too...

I'm kind of nervous about the 64bit version though. In the past when I have tried it, support wasn't nearly as good for it (Drivers and otherwise)

-Kevin

everything works fine on my T60, fwiw. i dont plan on making the 8.10 upgrade, however. i *might* try it, eventually. for some reason sleep is broken on my laptop, but it worked perfect when i installed 8.04, so i need to do *something*

Originally posted by: Brainonska511

Originally posted by: Czar
What is the difference between Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Kubuntu

Ubuntu uses the Gnome desktop
Kubuntu uses the KDE desktop
Xubuntu is for older/slower machines (IIRC)

i like xubuntu. it works fine on a modern desktop, too, and includes most of the nifty features of ubuntu while using a lighter-weight desktop environment. for a while i was tempted to switch to that from gnome, but ive since gotten happy with my gnome config

 

[Brazen]

the livecd loads up fine on my Dell D830 laptop, too. All other livecd or installs have failed due to a known issue with the chipset. I'm guessing the new kernel used in Ubuntu Intrepid is the reason for that and other distros should see the same success from here on out.

Originally posted by: Czar
ok cool, either way would be nice I guess

With the live cd I could have a look before installing right?

As Gamingphreak also mentioned - you can install Ubuntu and then use the package manager to install 'kubuntu-desktop' and essentially have everything that comes with Ubuntu and everything that comes with Kubuntu. You would have the option at the login screen whether to log in to KDE or Gnome. The same can be done by starting out with a Kubuntu install and all this works with Xubuntu as well.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: xSauronx

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Decided to get the 64bit version - kinda stinks because now I have to format and reinstall. Haven't had to reinstall since 7.10 too...

I'm kind of nervous about the 64bit version though. In the past when I have tried it, support wasn't nearly as good for it (Drivers and otherwise)

-Kevin

everything works fine on my T60, fwiw. i dont plan on making the 8.10 upgrade, however. i *might* try it, eventually. for some reason sleep is broken on my laptop, but it worked perfect when i installed 8.04, so i need to do *something*

Originally posted by: Brainonska511

Originally posted by: Czar
What is the difference between Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Kubuntu

Ubuntu uses the Gnome desktop
Kubuntu uses the KDE desktop
Xubuntu is for older/slower machines (IIRC)

i like xubuntu. it works fine on a modern desktop, too, and includes most of the nifty features of ubuntu while using a lighter-weight desktop environment. for a while i was tempted to switch to that from gnome, but ive since gotten happy with my gnome config

Well I am pretty happy with the subtle yet tangible changes they made in 8.10 - so you should be able to upgrade with confidence.

As an update on Flash though, Flash 10 really has horrible performance. While CSS and Flash now mix properly, the ESPN homepage (for example) does not display all the flash content and sometimes the flash animation can be very slow.

-Kevin

 

[accguy9009]

The torrent is crawling for me. I have 29% and I started the download 5 hours ago! I hope I get all overnight.

 

[eternalone]

Ubuntu is really great.

 

[xSauronx]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Well I am pretty happy with the subtle yet tangible changes they made in 8.10 - so you should be able to upgrade with confidence.

-Kevin

well i reinstalled 8.04 first, today. sure enough, suspend works fine, so one of the kernel updates must have been responsible for breaking it. meh

i went ahead and installed 8.10, i just hope no future updates break suspend again or ill go nuts.

also, and i dont know where to complain, but the performance of my esata card is absolute crap. i should try it on a windows laptop and see how it acts, but its no faster than usb2, and is a hassle to use :-/

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: Czar
Which is more fun, gnome or kde?

Gnome, but Linus Torvalds would likely disagree with me.

Originally posted by: eternalone
Ubuntu is really great.

I prefer OpenSUSE myself, they are a bit less copyleft than the Debian folks. But, Ubuntu is still a fine distro and I am using it until OpenSUSE 11.1 comes out and supports my NIC / GPU out of the box so I do not have to reinstall my drivers with each kernel update.

I must give Ubuntu 8.10 a :thumbsup:

 

[Gamingphreek]

Over Thanksgiving break, HOPEFULLY I will have time to start building my own Linux distro. I got the manual for LFS so I plan on starting that. I can't wait for someone to ask what I am running ... Granted this will probably be used only for a light weight recovery distro.

That stinks about the esata card! Are there any other drivers out there for it?

Schadenfroh, how is OpenSUSE compared to Ubuntu. I would imagine Ubuntu does a lot more for the user as it is more of a basic distro - but the last time I used SUSE, it was SUSE 6 I want to say so - I'm out of the loop on that one. I have thought of trying Gentoo out though - Computer Science among everything else I'm doing at college kind of prevent that.

-Kevin

 

[xSauronx]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Over Thanksgiving break, HOPEFULLY I will have time to start building my own Linux distro. I got the manual for LFS so I plan on starting that. I can't wait for someone to ask what I am running ... Granted this will probably be used only for a light weight recovery distro.

That stinks about the esata card! Are there any other drivers out there for it?

to my knowledge (and i havent looked in a few weeks) it uses the open sata_sil driver. thing is, its not treated by the kernel as an expresscard. if i boot up with it, its treated like a pci card, so i *have* to boot with it to use it, and the performance isnt *ever* up to esata specs. removing it causes the os to think it disappeared, and it doesnt get picked up until a reboot. meh.

i tried playing with LFS in a vm a few weeks ago, but i kept running into compile problems and got tired of messing with it. good luck on your attempt!

 

[Brainonska511]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Schadenfroh, how is OpenSUSE compared to Ubuntu. I would imagine Ubuntu does a lot more for the user as it is more of a basic distro - but the last time I used SUSE, it was SUSE 6 I want to say so - I'm out of the loop on that one. I have thought of trying Gentoo out though - Computer Science among everything else I'm doing at college kind of prevent that.

-Kevin

Just a quick search of OpenSuse, it seems like a good distro. I might give it a whirl over Winter Break, when I'll have time to play around with new things and the 11.1 distro will be out.

I'm trying to see if I can get better battery life out of my laptop under Linux, and Ubuntu is just not cutting it (1.5 hours in Ubuntu vs. 2.5-3 hours in XP).

 

[Czar]

Using ubuntu now, quite nice.

In some ways its alot more polished than windows, but in some ways not.

 

[Bateluer]

So whats the verdict in Ibex?

I usually dual boot Vista and Ubuntu on my main desktop, but after swapping out my 680i based board for my P45 based Asus, an 18in SATA cable barely reaches my drives. The 160GB that I used for Linux can no longer be reached until I get some longer cables. They're on their way though.