UAW question. Why doesnt the foreign car makers have union problems?

OutHouse

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Specifically, Toyota. they have several plants here in the US and how do they handle the UAW??
 

Jassi

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Originally posted by: Citrix
Specifically, Toyota. they have several plants here in the US and how do they handle the UAW??

Thet dont have the UAW....
 

summit

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companies like toyota deal directly with their employees... they give the employees benefits and working conditions... and do not have a union... toyota could fire all workers if they unionize and therefore the workers like their jobs and benefits and no problem ... my uncle works for toyota and he thinks that its great
 

Eli

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Because they're smart and don't have anything to do with them.
 

eakers

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we have a huge toyota plant in my town and the CAW has tried so so hard to get in there because they make their employees work a lot (forced overtime) but the car maker is dead set against having them in there.
 

Gibsons

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Originally posted by: eakers
we have a huge toyota plant in my town and the CAW has tried so so hard to get in there because they make their employees work a lot (forced overtime) but the car maker is dead set against having them in there.

If I were a car manufacturer I'd be dead set against it too.
 

Keyvan

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even though i'm not an auto worker, i'm covered by the CAW, and in my opinion, it's worth the 10 bucks a month considering how easy they make our jobs :D
 

DaveCSparty

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Unions are for lazy ass people who knows that they're incompetent and lose their jobs w/o it ;) There's some truth to that tho
 

Amplifier

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Originally posted by: DaveCSparty
Unions are for lazy ass people who knows that they're incompetent and lose their jobs w/o it ;)

Indeed. GM should crush their employee's union.
 

shilala

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Originally posted by: DaveCSparty
Unions are for lazy ass people who knows that they're incompetent and lose their jobs w/o it ;) There's some truth to that tho
Open shops are for underpaid sheep whose lack of education and initiative force them to accept the status quo regardless of fairness. ;) There's some truth to that, too. :)

 

jadinolf

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Originally posted by: Amplifier
Originally posted by: DaveCSparty
Unions are for lazy ass people who knows that they're incompetent and lose their jobs w/o it ;)

Indeed. GM should crush their employee's union.

I think the union has crushed GM.

They are in serious financial trouble.
 

m2kewl

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Originally posted by: jadinolf
Originally posted by: Amplifier
Originally posted by: DaveCSparty
Unions are for lazy ass people who knows that they're incompetent and lose their jobs w/o it ;)

Indeed. GM should crush their employee's union.

I think the union has crushed GM.

They are in serious financial trouble.
do you hear that???? Silence.........

GM's heart has just stopped beating ;)
 

CPA

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My company, while it's not a car manufacturer, has locations across most of the United States. We have few unionized employees. Those that are unionized are normally in the Northeast (NJ, NY, etc), West (California, Nevada) and the upper Midwest (Michigan, Illinois). I think it's more of a mindset of the people that live in those areas, from prior generations who pushed a "union" mentality down.
 

GTaudiophile

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The German "Gewerkschaften", especially IG Metall (Metal Workers Union that "controls" many of the car manufacturers in Germany), have a totally different relationship with companies in Germany. The head union representative for that company also sits on the board of directors, by law. So he/she has an actual role/veto power in determining the actions of the company. Many but not all labor disputes are sorted out at this formal level. They rarely reach the streets. But when they do, the likes of Mercedes or BMW are known to experience a substantial decrease in output that has affected supply to the United States.
 

dartworth

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Originally posted by: shilala
Originally posted by: DaveCSparty
Unions are for lazy ass people who knows that they're incompetent and lose their jobs w/o it ;) There's some truth to that tho
Open shops are for underpaid sheep whose lack of education and initiative force them to accept the status quo regardless of fairness. ;) There's some truth to that, too. :)




Amen brother...:thumbsup:
 

Squisher

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I work for American Axle. We were General Motors, but were sold in 1994.

Same people. Same Union. Pretty much the same contract. Now we are profitable.

I am not a lazy union employee and most of my co-workers aren't either. We are all aware that if we don't step up to the plate then we won't have a job.

Are there lazy employees at where I work? Yes, but what place doesn't have lazy employees?

 

Lucky

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"Are there lazy employees at where I work? Yes, but what place doesn't have lazy employees? "


The places where those employees <gasp> get FIRED!
 

Ryan

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let's see - they treat their employees right for a start, eliminating the main focus for a union: to prevent abuse from the employer. Why have one if it isn't needed?