U.S. Women feel Democracy teetering on brink 1-9-05

[DevilsAdvocate]

Nice thread title. :roll:

NOW is sooo out of step these days it is unreal.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Totally uncalled for . You should be banned for that. Whether or not I or anyone else agrees or disagrees with your position.

You liberals are so whiny. Always looking to ban somebody if you dont like what they say.

lol "you liberals"... jesus you mention somebody's handle in a thread and conservatives will be all "oooh you called someone out, ban ban ban"

WEll, someone was given a vacation for doing exactly that - mentioning someone's handle in a thread they were not participating in. What has been asked for is consistency in applying that rule.

CsG

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate
Nice thread title. :roll:

NOW is sooo out of step these days it is unreal.

Really, How dare women think they would want any rights in America, they should just follow the lead of the Saudi's that own our Govt side by side with the Churches.

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
It seemed like a very cordial, to-the-point letter. Maybe you gave me a bad link?

The part I liked especially was "NOW is requesting a meeting with you in the near future in the spirit of "equal time" and as a healthy antidote to your recent gathering with the fundamentalist men who have co-opted and misrepresented the notion of family values."

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
It's not the 1800's women have every good right to get theirs.
If your woman is a stay in the kitchen type good for you but nowdays those types don't last long before they wise up and dump the loser. :thumbsup:

ROFL. Another joyous declaration that anyone who disagrees with you is a complete idiot. How wonderfully ridiculous!

Originally posted by: Commodus
The reason why groups like NOW have been vocal in defending the ability to have an abortion is because, at least last year, there was an almost palpable fear of it being taken away - remember, the Republicans still hold the most sway in the US government, and there was talk amongst them of a constiutional ban on gay marriage. Anyone who would try to enshrine a particular religious standpoint in a secular, democratic government is dangerous. The pro-choice rallies are simply a means of reminding the Republicans of this before they truly mess things up.

If you'd look into the abortion issue at all, you'd realize that religion plays no necessary part in a ban. Logic alone is more than sufficient, as abortion is only allowed due to a complete fabrication of an ethical distinction based on a document that clearly did not establish such a distinction. If you're going to argue for the application of logic alone, whether it be legal or ethical in nature, then you're on the wrong side of the hump.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
I don't think there is a woman out there with the facts who wouldn't support NOW.
Well to a bigoted spouse maybe they would say they wouldn't.

From the noble defender of women...

Go figure...

CsG

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
I don't think there is a woman out there with the facts who wouldn't support NOW.
Well to a bigoted spouse maybe they would say they wouldn't.

From the noble defender of women...

Go figure...

CsG

Actually it is pretty simple. According the liberls, if you are male and dont agree with NOW, you are a bigot.
If you are female and dont agree with NOW, you are stupid.

And this party wonders why they are no longer a majority party.

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate
Nice thread title. :roll:

NOW is sooo out of step these days it is unreal.

Really, How dare women think they would want any rights in America, they should just follow the lead of the Saudi's that own our Govt side by side with the Churches.

The way that you titled the thread indicates that there was a poll, or some manifestation of a majority of public opinion. It is very misleading, but we've come to expect that from you.

:roll:

NOW, which was once a vibrant, powerful organization, is now completely irrelevant. It has marginalized itself as a shrill, bitchy voice from the extreme left. In recent years, NOW has been lambasted for failure to come to the aid of Monica Lewinsky, Paula Jones, and others. I guess their not "women" under their definition. Their membership is now a tenth of what it was in its prime, and that is even sadder when you factor in population growth.

Think of it this way. dmcowen674 is to P&N as NOW is to womens' action groups, generally. A shrill, bitchy, incoherent voice - which is widely noted for spewing hyperbolic drivel - in the global "market place of ideas."

With regard to the alleged "substance" of your post, are you ever going to tire about spewing baseless bile about America becoming a theocratic state?

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate
Nice thread title. :roll:

NOW is sooo out of step these days it is unreal.

Really, How dare women think they would want any rights in America, they should just follow the lead of the Saudi's that own our Govt side by side with the Churches.

The way that you titled the thread indicates that there was a poll, or some manifestation of a majority of public opinion. It is very misleading, but we've come to expect that from you.

NOW, which was once a vibrant, powerful organization, is now completely irrelevant. It has marginalized itself as a shrill, bitchy voice from the extreme left. In recent years, NOW has been lambasted for failure to come to the aid of Monica Lewinsky, Paula Jones, and others. I guess their not "women" under their definition. Their membership is now a tenth of what it was in its prime, and that is even sadder when you factor in population growth.

Think of it this way. dmcowen674 is to P&N as NOW is to womens' action groups, generally. A shrill, bitchy, incoherent voice - which is widely noted for spewing hyperbolic drivel - in the global "market place of ideas."

With regard to the alleged "substance" of your post, are you ever going to tire about spewing baseless bile about America becoming a theocratic state?

There is no majority of public opinion anymore in the U.S., it's either the RRR FLL way or the Highway.

"NOW, which was once a vibrant, powerful organization, is now completely irrelevant."

Yep, because women have become the biatchs that replaced African American discrimination but for the most part they are thrilled about as evidenced by the submissiveness of women these days. Susan B Anthony must be rolling over in her grave.

Yep, that's pretty much all I am a whisper in a sea of Theocracy. It is no longer about becoming, it is.

 

[Steeplerot]

haha ann coulter betrayed her sex a long time ago, she needs no knight in shining armor, more like rabies shots.

 

[alchemize]

NOW is a joke because it is nothing but an extension of the DNC. Frankly, until a woman becomes pregnant and has a child, she is no different from a man. NOW doesn't represent women, it represents liberals.

Why does NOW ignore all the REAL issues that face REAL women...

- The C-Section epidemic
- Make your babies unhealthy with formula and daycare epidemic
- The breast cancer epidemic
- The unmarried mothers epidemic
- The teenage mothers epidemic
- Making corporations become more friendly to working mothers, and more friendly to mothers who want to return to work

Go look at their web page. It says it all. Nice link to "thetruthaboutgeorge.com". Look at their press releases.

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate
Nice thread title. :roll:

NOW is sooo out of step these days it is unreal.

Really, How dare women think they would want any rights in America, they should just follow the lead of the Saudi's that own our Govt side by side with the Churches.

The way that you titled the thread indicates that there was a poll, or some manifestation of a majority of public opinion. It is very misleading, but we've come to expect that from you.

NOW, which was once a vibrant, powerful organization, is now completely irrelevant. It has marginalized itself as a shrill, bitchy voice from the extreme left. In recent years, NOW has been lambasted for failure to come to the aid of Monica Lewinsky, Paula Jones, and others. I guess their not "women" under their definition. Their membership is now a tenth of what it was in its prime, and that is even sadder when you factor in population growth.

Think of it this way. dmcowen674 is to P&N as NOW is to womens' action groups, generally. A shrill, bitchy, incoherent voice - which is widely noted for spewing hyperbolic drivel - in the global "market place of ideas."

With regard to the alleged "substance" of your post, are you ever going to tire about spewing baseless bile about America becoming a theocratic state?

There is no majority of public opinion anymore in the U.S., it's either the RRR FLL way or the Highway.

"NOW, which was once a vibrant, powerful organization, is now completely irrelevant."

Yep, because women have become the biatchs that replaced African American discrimination but for the most part they are thrilled about as evidenced by the submissiveness of women these days. Susan B Anthony must be rolling over in her grave.

Yep, that's pretty much all I am a whisper in a sea of Theocracy. It is no longer about becoming, it is.

Blah. Blah. Blah.

There is a majority of American opinion. It is the majority that reelected Bush. :roll: There is plenty of room for public discourse, and debate. The Iraq issue has been debated ad nauseum.

Women have never earned more than now. You can't compare the "plight" of women today to the Civil Rights struggle of the 60's. Has anyone firebombed a NOW meeting?

BTW, It is not a Theocracy ipse dixit... Coherently explain why the US is ruled by God or His agents.

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: arsbanned
Totally uncalled for . You should be banned for that. Whether or not I or anyone else agrees or disagrees with your position.

Boohoo. It was quite called for.

Heh, you're completely immature.

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Condor, I am sure there is noone depending on anything here. Or was that a freudian slip about women and dependence? 😀

I'm sure that everyone here depends on someone. Are you independently wealthy or do you live on your own island where you are king and only have to depend on your minions?

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: peonyu
Theres only one majority in America according to liberal dummy math - white males.

I wonder what all those women I worked for in the last 30 years called themselves?

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: Commodus
The reason why groups like NOW have been vocal in defending the ability to have an abortion is because, at least last year, there was an almost palpable fear of it being taken away - remember, the Republicans still hold the most sway in the US government, and there was talk amongst them of a constiutional ban on gay marriage. Anyone who would try to enshrine a particular religious standpoint in a secular, democratic government is dangerous. The pro-choice rallies are simply a means of reminding the Republicans of this before they truly mess things up.

Abortion - gay marriage - religious view points? Check out China. Can gays marry there? Abortions are certainly legal unless they are of the female fetus. China is as secular as you can get!

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
What part of National Organization for Women doesen't fit in your head?

Thats hilarious, as there have been several former NOW branch presidents that have spoken out about how NOW doesnt represent women. Almost all of them cite NOWs staunch support of Bill Clinton as the starting point that lead NOW down to its not irrelevancy to most women.

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate
Nice thread title. :roll:

NOW is sooo out of step these days it is unreal.

Really, How dare women think they would want any rights in America, they should just follow the lead of the Saudi's that own our Govt side by side with the Churches.

The way that you titled the thread indicates that there was a poll, or some manifestation of a majority of public opinion. It is very misleading, but we've come to expect that from you.

NOW, which was once a vibrant, powerful organization, is now completely irrelevant. It has marginalized itself as a shrill, bitchy voice from the extreme left. In recent years, NOW has been lambasted for failure to come to the aid of Monica Lewinsky, Paula Jones, and others. I guess their not "women" under their definition. Their membership is now a tenth of what it was in its prime, and that is even sadder when you factor in population growth.

Think of it this way. dmcowen674 is to P&N as NOW is to womens' action groups, generally. A shrill, bitchy, incoherent voice - which is widely noted for spewing hyperbolic drivel - in the global "market place of ideas."

With regard to the alleged "substance" of your post, are you ever going to tire about spewing baseless bile about America becoming a theocratic state?

There is no majority of public opinion anymore in the U.S., it's either the RRR FLL way or the Highway.

"NOW, which was once a vibrant, powerful organization, is now completely irrelevant."

Yep, because women have become the biatchs that replaced African American discrimination but for the most part they are thrilled about as evidenced by the submissiveness of women these days. Susan B Anthony must be rolling over in her grave.

Yep, that's pretty much all I am a whisper in a sea of Theocracy. It is no longer about becoming, it is.

So the women who just want to be moms and wives are submissive? You are divorced right? Its you and NOW who are out of touch with reality.

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
What part of National Organization for Women doesen't fit in your head?

So I guess Swiftboat Vets for Truth have to be representing the truth, because, hey, they have the word "truth" in their name.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate
Nice thread title. :roll:

NOW is sooo out of step these days it is unreal.

Really, How dare women think they would want any rights in America, they should just follow the lead of the Saudi's that own our Govt side by side with the Churches.

The way that you titled the thread indicates that there was a poll, or some manifestation of a majority of public opinion. It is very misleading, but we've come to expect that from you.

NOW, which was once a vibrant, powerful organization, is now completely irrelevant. It has marginalized itself as a shrill, bitchy voice from the extreme left. In recent years, NOW has been lambasted for failure to come to the aid of Monica Lewinsky, Paula Jones, and others. I guess their not "women" under their definition. Their membership is now a tenth of what it was in its prime, and that is even sadder when you factor in population growth.

Think of it this way. dmcowen674 is to P&N as NOW is to womens' action groups, generally. A shrill, bitchy, incoherent voice - which is widely noted for spewing hyperbolic drivel - in the global "market place of ideas."

With regard to the alleged "substance" of your post, are you ever going to tire about spewing baseless bile about America becoming a theocratic state?

There is no majority of public opinion anymore in the U.S., it's either the RRR FLL way or the Highway.

"NOW, which was once a vibrant, powerful organization, is now completely irrelevant."

Yep, because women have become the biatchs that replaced African American discrimination but for the most part they are thrilled about as evidenced by the submissiveness of women these days. Susan B Anthony must be rolling over in her grave.

Yep, that's pretty much all I am a whisper in a sea of Theocracy. It is no longer about becoming, it is.

So the women who just want to be moms and wives are submissive? You are divorced right? Its you and NOW who are out of touch with reality.

Yep, you're right, I am not part of the Brainwashed Sheeple so I am out of touch with submissive Mom's and Wives. I am divorced and she was standing by Bush no matter what too.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Mookow

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
What part of National Organization for Women doesen't fit in your head?

So I guess Swiftboat Vets for Truth have to be representing the truth, because, hey, they have the word "truth" in their name.

Yep, the Swiftboat Vets for Truth had to be telling the Truth because the Sheeple have spoken.

 

[Mungo Jerry]

dmcowen674, I disagree with your analysis on this subject.. Personally, I think the problem is with TFHL's believing that a VRWC is somehow taking over the country. Truth is, the VRWC is really the TFHL's way of dealing with ICBBW and OMGMPDWM.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Mungo Jerry
dmcowen674, I disagree with your analysis on this subject.. Personally, I think the problem is with TFHL's believing that a VRWC is somehow taking over the country. Truth is, the VRWC is really the TFHL's way of dealing with ICBBW and OMGMPDWM.

Buahahaha!!! :thumbsup:

CsG

 

[Isla]

Well, I personally am not worried. Us witches have always been able to figure a way how to work things out for ourselves, and if we are headed for a Handmaid's Tale type future, we'll come up with our own underground.

BTW, it's about CHOICE. I was a stay at home mom when it was the best choice for my family, and now I work because it is the best choice for my family. I want to have the right to make the choices that are best for myself and my family, always.

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate
Nice thread title. :roll:

NOW is sooo out of step these days it is unreal.

Really, How dare women think they would want any rights in America, they should just follow the lead of the Saudi's that own our Govt side by side with the Churches.

The way that you titled the thread indicates that there was a poll, or some manifestation of a majority of public opinion. It is very misleading, but we've come to expect that from you.

NOW, which was once a vibrant, powerful organization, is now completely irrelevant. It has marginalized itself as a shrill, bitchy voice from the extreme left. In recent years, NOW has been lambasted for failure to come to the aid of Monica Lewinsky, Paula Jones, and others. I guess their not "women" under their definition. Their membership is now a tenth of what it was in its prime, and that is even sadder when you factor in population growth.

Think of it this way. dmcowen674 is to P&N as NOW is to womens' action groups, generally. A shrill, bitchy, incoherent voice - which is widely noted for spewing hyperbolic drivel - in the global "market place of ideas."

With regard to the alleged "substance" of your post, are you ever going to tire about spewing baseless bile about America becoming a theocratic state?

There is no majority of public opinion anymore in the U.S., it's either the RRR FLL way or the Highway.

"NOW, which was once a vibrant, powerful organization, is now completely irrelevant."

Yep, because women have become the biatchs that replaced African American discrimination but for the most part they are thrilled about as evidenced by the submissiveness of women these days. Susan B Anthony must be rolling over in her grave.

Yep, that's pretty much all I am a whisper in a sea of Theocracy. It is no longer about becoming, it is.

So the women who just want to be moms and wives are submissive? You are divorced right? Its you and NOW who are out of touch with reality.

Yep, you're right, I am not part of the Brainwashed Sheeple so I am out of touch with submissive Mom's and Wives. I am divorced and she was standing by Bush no matter what too.

Wow, Dave. That was almost coherent. Almost.

 

[Mungo Jerry]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate
Nice thread title. :roll:

NOW is sooo out of step these days it is unreal.

Really, How dare women think they would want any rights in America, they should just follow the lead of the Saudi's that own our Govt side by side with the Churches.

The way that you titled the thread indicates that there was a poll, or some manifestation of a majority of public opinion. It is very misleading, but we've come to expect that from you.

NOW, which was once a vibrant, powerful organization, is now completely irrelevant. It has marginalized itself as a shrill, bitchy voice from the extreme left. In recent years, NOW has been lambasted for failure to come to the aid of Monica Lewinsky, Paula Jones, and others. I guess their not "women" under their definition. Their membership is now a tenth of what it was in its prime, and that is even sadder when you factor in population growth.

Think of it this way. dmcowen674 is to P&N as NOW is to womens' action groups, generally. A shrill, bitchy, incoherent voice - which is widely noted for spewing hyperbolic drivel - in the global "market place of ideas."

With regard to the alleged "substance" of your post, are you ever going to tire about spewing baseless bile about America becoming a theocratic state?

There is no majority of public opinion anymore in the U.S., it's either the RRR FLL way or the Highway.

"NOW, which was once a vibrant, powerful organization, is now completely irrelevant."

Yep, because women have become the biatchs that replaced African American discrimination but for the most part they are thrilled about as evidenced by the submissiveness of women these days. Susan B Anthony must be rolling over in her grave.

Yep, that's pretty much all I am a whisper in a sea of Theocracy. It is no longer about becoming, it is.

So the women who just want to be moms and wives are submissive? You are divorced right? Its you and NOW who are out of touch with reality.

Yep, you're right, I am not part of the Brainwashed Sheeple so I am out of touch with submissive Mom's and Wives. I am divorced and she was standing by Bush no matter what too.

What's a sheeple? That anything like one of your RRFFLTG&YOMGWTFWATERMELONEENYMEENYMINEYMOPB&JYAAGAH?