U.S. Testing Pain Ray in Afghanistan

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PeshakJang

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They are just not a very bright people in aggregate. The way they attempt to solve problems, the way they drive (more Afghan soldiers are killed in vehicle accidents than in combat,) the way they do business, etc.

I just got back last week... spent a year in Khost. We ran a small COP with ANA, ANP, ABP, NDS, et al., basically directing responses to different events... kinda like a little 9-1-1 center for the province. On a daily basis, they would amaze me with their actions. These were some of the most intelligent members of their respective services, but you wouldn't know it.

I am proud to say though, that I think we changed their feelings about dogs while we were there. Every district center usually had puppies or dogs hanging out getting kicked or rocks thrown at them, but by the time we left, most of the Afghans treated the dogs pretty well, fed them, and some even adopted the puppies we had in our motor pool.

As backwards as they all were though, most of them were pretty good at chess, suprisingly. I think the Russians taught them.
 

Elias824

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They are just not a very bright people in aggregate. The way they attempt to solve problems, the way they drive (more Afghan soldiers are killed in vehicle accidents than in combat,) the way they do business, etc.

And they are largely illiterate. This isn't Iraq, we're trying to build this place up from nothing, and their culture simply doesn't support modern mechanisms like freedom, honesty, democracy, hard work, etc. We need to spend a generation working on the kids, teaching them western ways in schools with no religious influence in order to build a cultural baseline. Then we can start building more complex things, like a functioning legal system, traffic system, democratic government, police force, etc.

Do you know how most crimes are solved in Afghanistan? Confession. Do you know how they get those confessions? They beat the fuck out of the "suspect" until he confesses. Or they just lie and say he confessed. If people get in a car accident and get out of their cars to argue, the police are usually there quickly to resolve the incident... by beating the fuck out of the drivers until they get in their cars and leave (this is actually sort of funny to watch.) Thursday I watched two Afghans talking for a few moments, then one walks away, about 20 feet, to where a puppy is sleeping on the ground, up against a concrete barrier. His first kick catches it off guard, it starts to yelp and scream, but he just keeps kicking it, and it's bouncing between the concrete barrier and his foot for about 20 seconds. We were pretty rapidly closing the distance, and the soldier I was with was screaming at the Afghan. I calmed him down, and asked the Afghan in Dari why he was kicking the dog. He essentially replied, "why not?"

I've had to shoot dogs that the ANA intentionally hit with their trucks (swerving off the road to do so) and left broken and yelping. I've seen ANA soldiers cut the ears off dogs to make them "better fighting dogs." I've seen ANA soldiers buttstroke children with an AK47 so they could steal their brass (from a shooting range.)

In so, so many ways, this country is fucked. Hook the pain ray up to a satellite, set it to "popcorn" and point it at Afghanistan.

So what your saying is its still better then Detroit?
 

Slew Foot

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I could have developed one of those things for much cheaper, just hook hook up some big ass speakers to an ipod playing Celine Dion.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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I'm wondering how they are going to protect this modern marvel. It has to be close enough to do the job and I'd think an RPG would take out it's transmission.

Even if it works as advertised in all conditions is it practical to field?
 

PeshakJang

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I'm wondering how they are going to protect this modern marvel. It has to be close enough to do the job and I'd think an RPG would take out it's transmission.

Even if it works as advertised in all conditions is it practical to field?

Probably best used as force protection system for larger bases, in it's current form.
 

ConstipatedVigilante

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I'm wondering how they are going to protect this modern marvel. It has to be close enough to do the job and I'd think an RPG would take out it's transmission.

Even if it works as advertised in all conditions is it practical to field?

It's probably not going to be sitting out in the middle of the desert; it's more likely going to be used to protect military bases and urban centers that already have a large garrison.