TastesLikeChicken
Lifer
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Is anybody going to answer HappyPuppy's question instead of spouting hyperbolic crap? It's doesn't seem so thus far.
Once you consider the mess Rummy and his stategists go into, random people offering random comments suddenly looks much better.
Tommy Franks was a good general of course he retired because he knows he will go down as a smart man by winning Afghanistan and Iraq not the Iraq insurgency/resistance but the toppling of Saddam.I'd say the guy behind the fallujah attack was smart too but its still too early to call because theres more insurgents/resistance fighters to kill around Iraq.
Hell no you think rummy is bad imagine you guys as strategists all our soldiers would be dead if you guys and that includes me had to plan a battle like fallujah.I won't say too much regarding strategy to win now because I have no idea of the situation at hand(as in knowning exactly what is happening in Iraq not what the media tells us) but am hoping the generals got a plan to crush the insurgency/resistance.
No all our troops would be here safe and sound guarding our borders. You wouldn't have 1,000+ dead GI's. Only fools jump into war blindly and with little regard with the aftermath of a war.
The answer has been given to him. Just because you don't like the answer and refuse to acknowledge it does not mean it was not answered. Stop asking question to which people have already given the answer too.
Yea but you can plan for everything and still be surprised its not like everything on paper works thats why I give credit to the generals there that have to accomplish something and worry about not losing too much life.Also I don't want to sound like an a$$hole but I will 130,000 troops or so in Iraq for 2 years and 1,100+ die thats a damn good ratio and I got friends and family there and they have told me the same so don't hate the messenger.
TastesLikeChicken
Lifer
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The answer has not been given. Pointing fingers is not a solution. I have seen no solutions. I have seen lots of finger pointing.
TastesLikeChicken
Lifer
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Read about people complaining about the past again (and specifically Bush), ad naseum? No thanks. It does nothing for the present.
Whatever I am done with you. At this point you are just diverting the thread. I suggest everyone else ignore anyone who does not want read what was answered already.
TastesLikeChicken
Lifer
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Yeah. Ignore anyone who doesn't want to reflexively bash Bush.
Asking for a straight answer is diverting the thread too. :roll:
I just read the thread and am thinking you're either blind or talking about a different question.
Bush screws up Iraq based on complete fabrication of intelligence and these neocon geniuses here ask us how to fix it. There aren't any answers. Iraq is FUBAR. There is no fixing it.
The only satisfaction left now is for the people who made this disaster to be held responsible for it. But neocon loving brain dead America gives them four more years instead. Brilliant. Then they have the gall to gripe about people beating up on Bush.
The problem with Bush is, he never had to be concerned with the consequences of his actions. The smarmy, spoiled wastrel just coasted through life on the family name and now that he's made Iraq a hell hole we'll be stuck in for decades he just does what he has always done. He skates away scot free. And you neocon loving idiots allow him to, while you ask moronic questions of the people who are left holding the bag.
What would I do to straighten out Iraq? I already told you. Try to understand this time. I know it's difficult. Anyone stupid enough to defend Bush is by definition cognitively challenged, but listen up.
Send Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Perle, Rice, the entire Bush administration to Iraq with no body armor or vehicle armor and tell them to face the Iraqi people and straighten out the mess they made. That will be a start. Once people begin to realize America is no longer a nation of festering baboons who allow their 'leaders' to trample their nation's reputation and honor we may reach a starting point where we can begin to fix the disaster Bush's unprovoked, illegal, immoral invasion has caused.
The Bush administration has got to go before any healing can be accomplished. But you people gave them four more years instead. We can't even begin to fix Iraq until Americans all recognize where the problems began and what we must do to correct them. But by the look of things the likes of you will never achieve that recognition.
The only satisfaction left now is for the people who made this disaster to be held responsible for it. But neocon loving brain dead America gives them four more years instead. Brilliant. Then they have the gall to gripe about people beating up on Bush.
The problem with Bush is, he never had to be concerned with the consequences of his actions. The smarmy, spoiled wastrel just coasted through life on the family name and now that he's made Iraq a hell hole we'll be stuck in for decades he just does what he has always done. He skates away scot free. And you neocon loving idiots allow him to, while you ask moronic questions of the people who are left holding the bag.
What would I do to straighten out Iraq? I already told you. Try to understand this time. I know it's difficult. Anyone stupid enough to defend Bush is by definition cognitively challenged, but listen up.
Send Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Perle, Rice, the entire Bush administration to Iraq with no body armor or vehicle armor and tell them to face the Iraqi people and straighten out the mess they made. That will be a start. Once people begin to realize America is no longer a nation of festering baboons who allow their 'leaders' to trample their nation's reputation and honor we may reach a starting point where we can begin to fix the disaster Bush's unprovoked, illegal, immoral invasion has caused.
The Bush administration has got to go before any healing can be accomplished. But you people gave them four more years instead. We can't even begin to fix Iraq until Americans all recognize where the problems began and what we must do to correct them. But by the look of things the likes of you will never achieve that recognition.
TastesLikeChicken
Lifer
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The question "What do you suggest to resolve the situation?" was asked.
Nobody has answered it, instead choosing yet again to respond with tired, old Bush-bashing rhetoric.
:yawn;
Sometimes I'd think certain members in here are not humans but are actually bots keyed to cut and paste from a Bush-rant template every time the word Iraq is encountered in a post.
I'm not one of the whiner crowd concerning Iraq. I think we're making progress and that eventually we will get to the final goal.
mastertech01
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And there have been a hell of a lot more than 130.000 troops there... that is what is continously on the ground.. probably been closer to 250,000 plus served there.
umbrella39
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I think a better question is how many guys on Bush's team are military strategists? Judging from the past 2 years of this exercise in futility, I would bet that answer is none.
Heh, no body is gonna care as long as American don't "feel" those billions of dollar spent in Iraq, and as long as those who died are either Iraqis or other people's sons and daughters. Hey, as long as the President goes to the same church or belongs to the same party, people are gonna support him no matter what he does.
Don't waste your breath on this topic. The rest of us and the world knows Iraq/Falluja is a mess, but those "majority" of American people will just believe whatever Bush or Fox tells them.
Don't waste your breath on this topic. The rest of us and the world knows Iraq/Falluja is a mess, but those "majority" of American people will just believe whatever Bush or Fox tells them.
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