U.S. obesity rate could hit 42% by 2030

[Kaido]

http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2012/05/07/42-of-nation-to-be-obese-by-2030-study-predicts/

Key points:

* 42% of nation to be obese by 2030, study predicts.

* Estimated that 11% of the population will be severely obese by 2030. Severe obesity is defined as a body mass index over 40 or being roughly 100 pounds overweight.

* “Those individuals have much greater risk of early mortality, diabetes, heart disease,” said Finkelstein.

* About 35% of U.S. adults are obese today.

* “We just looked at adults,” said Finkelstein. “The reality is obese kids almost certainly become obese adults. Our estimates may be conservative.”

If you'll excuse me, I have to see a man about a treadmill D:

 

[highland145]

Read an interesting article in Men's Health about antibiotics. Cattlemen give them to cows because it helps fatten them up more quickly. Didn't quite get the gist of why/how but buy the time kids hit 18, they could have had 20 rounds of antibiotics, killing the good intestinal/stomach bugs that we need.

Yeah, over eating/lack of exercise are a significant issue.

 

[Kaido]

Read an interesting article in Men's Health about antibiotics. Cattlemen give them to cows because it helps fatten them up more quickly. Didn't quite get the gist of why/how but buy the time kids hit 18, they could have had 20 rounds of antibiotics, killing the good intestinal/stomach bugs that we need.

Yeah, over eating/lack of exercise are a significant issue.

Wow, awesome. It's really amazing how much crap we eat that we don't know about. I recently discovered that I have a mild corn allergy. It originally stemmed from realizing that every time I consumed high fructose corn syrup (in soda, ketchup, etc.), I got a really sharp headache on the right side of my head.

Then I was eating honey and the same thing happened...turns out beekeepers force-feed their bees HFCS to boost production times, and that in turn goes into the final honey product from the bees. Technically they don't have to label it, but for people with an intolerance to corn like me, it's such a pain because I had no idea corn was in honey. So now I have to buy special raw honey if I want to eat honey.

Same thing with gluten...I have a gluten intolerance, and it's in everything - even deli meat! So I have to buy special (aka more expensive) deli meat from Boar's Head, which is specifically labelled "gluten-free". I think that's a big big reason people have so many food allergies these days - because they put everything in everything! When I was a kid, there was maybe one child in elementary school who had a nut allergy. Now it seems like every other kid is allergic to something.

 

[highland145]

Get local honey. Supposedly helps with allergies. Fall harvest for the fall....Spring harvest won't help in the fall....

I don't ever remember any kids with nut allergies. Granted I'm 48 and they probably died from it back then.

Have a buddy allergic to barley....heh, no beer for him.

 

[blinky8225]

Read an interesting article in Men's Health about antibiotics. Cattlemen give them to cows because it helps fatten them up more quickly. Didn't quite get the gist of why/how but buy the time kids hit 18, they could have had 20 rounds of antibiotics, killing the good intestinal/stomach bugs that we need.

Yeah, over eating/lack of exercise are a significant issue.

Yes, gut flora is burgeoning area of research. The research is still in its infancy but researchers have found that obese individuals have different gut flora than lean individuals. Moreover, they have found links to diseases other than obesity. Scientists have found that mice lacking leptin (a hormone that controls are hunger) have distinct gut flora. It is possible that having bad gut flora could lead to overeating.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gut_flora

It's why Paleo folks often recommend eating fermented food to build good gut bacteria.

 

[Kalessian]

So from this thread I'm seeing that there's a race going on: The research to improve industrialized food reaches parity with pre-industrial food - vs - Industrial food kills everyone.

 

[highland145]

Yes, gut flora is burgeoning area of research. The research is still in its infancy but researchers have found that obese individuals have different gut flora than lean individuals. Moreover, they have found links to diseases other than obesity. Scientists have found that mice lacking leptin (a hormone that controls are hunger) have distinct gut flora. It is possible that having bad gut flora could lead to overeating.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gut_flora

It's why Paleo folks often recommend eating fermented food to build good gut bacteria.

Fecal transplant, FTW.......D😀:

The guy in the article was dying because the bad flora took over and "hibernated" when he was on antibiotics. Of course, they killed the good flora. Fecal transplant from his Dad saved his life. Here's a nice c.diff article.

 

[Bateluer]

Saw a Cafferty File editorial on this study and the comments in it made me sick. People were blaming politicians, the Republican Party, Romney, President Obama, etc, for the rise of obesity. Everyone and everything but themselves. No personal responsibility any more. I've commented on this in previous obesity threads in H&F, and gotten flamed by our arm chair experts for my stance that health starts with the individual.

Get local honey. Supposedly helps with allergies. Fall harvest for the fall....Spring harvest won't help in the fall....

Heard this, but haven't tested it myself. Need to find a place that sells local honey.

 

[highland145]

Saw a Cafferty File editorial on this study and the comments in it made me sick. People were blaming politicians, the Republican Party, Romney, President Obama, etc, for the rise of obesity. Everyone and everything but themselves. No personal responsibility any more. I've commented on this in previous obesity threads in H&F, and gotten flamed by our arm chair experts for my stance that health starts with the individual.



Heard this, but haven't tested it myself. Need to find a place that sells local honey.

Why take responsibility when you can blame others........typical.


No idea about the honey either. In laws have hives and say it works but my allergies aren't that bad.

 

[Sixguns]

Saw a Cafferty File editorial on this study and the comments in it made me sick. People were blaming politicians, the Republican Party, Romney, President Obama, etc, for the rise of obesity. Everyone and everything but themselves. No personal responsibility any more. I've commented on this in previous obesity threads in H&F, and gotten flamed by our arm chair experts for my stance that health starts with the individual.



Heard this, but haven't tested it myself. Need to find a place that sells local honey.

Back when I was a fatty, I blamed all the food I ate and video games!

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

Try going to the mall in Montgomery AL. Literally 1 in 4 people will have folds of fat going over the folds that are folding over the folds of their stomach fat. It's not nearly as bad here, but still it's pandemic.

 

[Mursilis]

Saw a Cafferty File editorial on this study and the comments in it made me sick. People were blaming politicians, the Republican Party, Romney, President Obama, etc, for the rise of obesity. Everyone and everything but themselves. No personal responsibility any more. I've commented on this in previous obesity threads in H&F, and gotten flamed by our arm chair experts for my stance that health starts with the individual.

Well duh!! This is America! It's someone else's fault, and the gov't needs to fix it for me! Plus compensate me!!

 

[shortylickens]

Kick out the mexicans and make Americans work whether they fucking want to or not.
Manual labor. Outside all day. Get back to basics.
Mandate people that work at home go outside for at least one hour each day.

 

[purbeast0]

i'm obese by BMI standards, but if you saw me obese is probably not a word that would even cross your mind.

 

[tedrodai]

Saw a Cafferty File editorial on this study and the comments in it made me sick. People were blaming politicians, the Republican Party, Romney, President Obama, etc, for the rise of obesity. Everyone and everything but themselves. No personal responsibility any more. I've commented on this in previous obesity threads in H&F, and gotten flamed by our arm chair experts for my stance that health starts with the individual.

I've only seen people disagree (possibly flame lol)--me included--with your ideas on how to approach the problem. I definitely agree with the stance that health starts with the individual and that one must take personal responsibility. Comments like the editorial you mentioned make me sick as well. Lack of personal responsibility is one of the most rampant diseases in the world, imo. Obesity is small potatoes compared to that.

 

[Awkward]

Fat people will blame everything else but themselves. Most commonly genetics, and disabilities. 99% of the people claiming to have thyroid problems are full of it.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

i'm obese by BMI standards, but if you saw me obese is probably not a word that would even cross your mind.

Being obese isn't as bad as people make it out to be. When people say look at that guy he's obese they're really talking about morbid obesity which is >40 BMI. At my worst, I was technically had severe obesity, but no one would ever call me more than "husky". Part of it is a shift in culture part of it is people just not realizing how much fat they're actually carrying around.

 

[ZOOYUKA]

I'm surprised its not worse. I feel like the numbers are flipped flopped. There is no way only 1 out of 3 people is overweight. It is more likely 2/3 if not worse.

 

[purbeast0]

Being obese isn't as bad as people make it out to be. When people say look at that guy he's obese they're really talking about morbid obesity which is >40 BMI. At my worst, I was technically had severe obesity, but no one would ever call me more than "husky". Part of it is a shift in culture part of it is people just not realizing how much fat they're actually carrying around.

yea i was just pointing out that the term "obese" when derived from BMI is a useless number in general because it does not factor build at all.

my bmi is like 28.5 or so but i have a body fat of around 15%, possibly less.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

yea i was just pointing out that the term "obese" when derived from BMI is a useless number in general because it does not factor build at all.

my bmi is like 28.5 or so but i have a body fat of around 15%, possibly less.

28.5 isn't even obese (unless you're Asian their scale is lower), but yea at you're beating the system entirely anyway.

 

[Bateluer]

Being obese isn't as bad as people make it out to be. When people say look at that guy he's obese they're really talking about morbid obesity which is >40 BMI. At my worst, I was technically had severe obesity, but no one would ever call me more than "husky". Part of it is a shift in culture part of it is people just not realizing how much fat they're actually carrying around.

I've pointed this out in the past too. People don't know what they human body is supposed to look like any more, because we've become so accustomed to seeing people that weigh far more than they should. The 'average' weight today is not the average weight 100yrs or 50yrs ago, and we've been acclimated.

Even worse, when we see pictures of healthy, fit people, they're actually attacked for being 'too skinny' and unattractive. Sports Illustrated generated a truckload of negative press when they ran nude pictures of top athletes in major sports . . . I posted a thread about it. And was attacked by people here, for that matter. Which backs up my point very well, we've become de-sensitized and acclimated to seeing obesity as 'normal'.

This is not a good trend.

 

[Cookie]

I've pointed this out in the past too. People don't know what they human body is supposed to look like any more, because we've become so accustomed to seeing people that weigh far more than they should. The 'average' weight today is not the average weight 100yrs or 50yrs ago, and we've been acclimated.

Even worse, when we see pictures of healthy, fit people, they're actually attacked for being 'too skinny' and unattractive. Sports Illustrated generated a truckload of negative press when they ran nude pictures of top athletes in major sports . . . I posted a thread about it. And was attacked by people here, for that matter. Which backs up my point very well, we've become de-sensitized and acclimated to seeing obesity as 'normal'.

This is not a good trend.

I'm nowhere near top athlete, I could lose almost another 20 pounds before I'd be considered underweight according to BMI, and I still want to lose 9 more, but I've been getting those types of comments for months from friends and family and people at work, some of whom I hardly ever talk to. "Don't lose any more." Too skinny." "Better stop now." "Shrinking down to nothing."

I think a lot of it is them comparing me to what I looked like before, which to be fair, is a pretty drastic difference, but over a period of 14 months, but a lot of it is because of what you said. People don't know what healthy looks like anymore.

 

[RbSX]

America, fuck yeah.

The most stunning part of this is that it is not hard to be in decent shape, people are just fucking lazy.

 

[tedrodai]

I'm nowhere near top athlete, I could lose almost another 20 pounds before I'd be considered underweight according to BMI, and I still want to lose 9 more, but I've been getting those types of comments for months from friends and family and people at work, some of whom I hardly ever talk to. "Don't lose any more." Too skinny." "Better stop now." "Shrinking down to nothing."

I think a lot of it is them comparing me to what I looked like before, which to be fair, is a pretty drastic difference, but over a period of 14 months, but a lot of it is because of what you said. People don't know what healthy looks like anymore.

Yeah I got that for years from someone very close to me due to reasons I won't go into. It sucks though...counter-encouragement. I was nowhere near underweight but simply trying to get back to being athletic. Just gotta stay focussed, as long as you know you're being healthy and not overdoing it. The good thing is, after weathering the counter-encouragement for years, I've managed to not only stick with a much healthier lifestyle and get into the best shape of my life, but I managed to encourage the other person to stop feeling sorry for themself (not in those words of course) and turn their show around too. We'll, they've STARTED to turn their show around anywho. Baby-steps 😉.

Even at under 10% body fat and 5'11" 180lbs, I still registered as overweight on the BMI scale. Though, obviously I'm not a long distance runner/etc.