U.S. is not going to beg OPEC for oil

[Dissipate]

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham said on Friday that the U.S. is not going to "beg OPEC for oil" and was instead developing "game-changing technologies" to counter its dependence on imports.

He noted that a huge rise in Asian demand and a recovery in the U.S. economy had contributed to the recent rise in oil, gasoline and other energy prices.

"The president has expressed very clearly his concern about OPEC decisions not hurting the economy... At the time we have also made it clear we are not going to beg OPEC for oil," Abraham said, noting the current rise in prices underscored the need for U.S. energy independence.

"Demand in the developing world is going to keep growing. We believe we need transformational technology," he told reporters after a meeting here.

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What price does oil have to reach for Americans to say enough is enough? I'm glad we are not begging OPEC for oil, we should be developing technologies to get off oil as soon as possible. As it is now we are sending billions of dollars to countries that hate the U.S. such as Saudi Arabia.

 

[BugsBunny1078]

We have all the oil in Iraq at our disposal. We should have free gas. Bush is giving his buddies all the oil and still letting them charge more for it.

 

[dmcowen674]

Higher, Higher, Higher!

I look forward to seeing hulks of SUVs idled everywhere like the landscape in a Terminator Movie or Mad Max. I want to see the pain on the faces of SUV owners that do still go to the station to fill up.

Buahahahaha <Evil Laugh>

Higher, Higher, Higher!

 

[Czar]

was instead developing "game-changing technologies" to counter its dependence on imports.

any ideas what that might be?

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Czar

was instead developing "game-changing technologies" to counter its dependence on imports.

any ideas what that might be?

Making Bigger and Bigger SUV's and sucking down as much gas as possible.

 

[Dman877]

Gas is like 7$ a gallon in England. They all drive tiny little cars . Maybe by "changing the gameplan" he means alternative energy...er... wait this is the war president, nevermind.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Dman877
Gas is like 7$ a gallon in England. They all drive tiny little cars . Maybe by "changing the gameplan" he means alternative energy...er... wait this is the war president, nevermind.

Hehehe

Cool, can't wait for Gas to hit $7 a gallon here Stateside, to see the face of SUV owners shelling out $200 to fill their SUV's would be priceless.

 

[tnitsuj]

Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
We have all the oil in Iraq at our disposal. We should have free gas. Bush is giving his buddies all the oil and still letting them charge more for it.

You have no idea what you are speaking of.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Czar

was instead developing "game-changing technologies" to counter its dependence on imports.

any ideas what that might be?

Tar sands?
Shale?
coal to gas?
methan gas hydrate?
Hybrids?
Hybrids + solar?
solar?
Nukes?


There seems to be plenty of options to replace oil.

 

[Dissipate]

Originally posted by: Czar

was instead developing "game-changing technologies" to counter its dependence on imports.

any ideas what that might be?

The most viable option being developed now is hydrogen fuel cell technology. The technology already exists but it has to be refined and the price has to be brought down for consumers to be able to afford cars that run on this technology.

 

[zephyrprime]

any ideas what that might be?

Well, in the full article, the guy talks about hydrogen and nuclear.

 

[ReiAyanami]

nuclear cars? YEE HAW.

solar powered flashlight....

maybe by game-changing plans, means planting some WMD in any OPEC country and then invading it. no, we don't even need to plant the WMDs....

as for u SUV haters out there, if there aren't any SUVs, who is going to move those moutains every weekend? who will occupy 1/8th of the occupancy space while driving alone all the time? WHO WILL PROVIDE Texacon and Ford with all their profits?!!!

 

[XMan]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Dman877
Gas is like 7$ a gallon in England. They all drive tiny little cars . Maybe by "changing the gameplan" he means alternative energy...er... wait this is the war president, nevermind.

Hehehe

Cool, can't wait for Gas to hit $7 a gallon here Stateside, to see the face of SUV owners shelling out $200 to fill their SUV's would be priceless.

It won't just effect them, dumbass. The vast majority of all consumer goods are transported by tractor-trailer. If fuel prices continue to rise, consumer prices will follow. It's going to hit you and every other American (yes, even the Prius drivers) smack dab in the pocketbook.

Bring on the fuel cells.

 

[Dissipate]

Originally posted by: X-Man

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Dman877
Gas is like 7$ a gallon in England. They all drive tiny little cars . Maybe by "changing the gameplan" he means alternative energy...er... wait this is the war president, nevermind.

Hehehe

Cool, can't wait for Gas to hit $7 a gallon here Stateside, to see the face of SUV owners shelling out $200 to fill their SUV's would be priceless.

It won't just effect them, dumbass. The vast majority of all consumer goods are transported by tractor-trailer. If fuel prices continue to rise, consumer prices will follow. It's going to hit you and every other American (yes, even the Prius drivers) smack dab in the pocketbook.

Bring on the fuel cells.

On the other hand high gas prices will make hydrogen fuel cell technology more lucrative and more firms will invest in it. It would suck for awhile but if high gas prices take us closer to an alternative energy source it may be better in the long haul. I happen to join in on the anti-SUV sentiment some people have. Driving around with huge SUVs and trucks is annoying to say the least, especially in parking lots. If people want to drive huge vehicles that's fine but I can't say I won't be laughing with cowen when gas prices sky rocket and they are stuck with an Excursion.

 

[Pennstate]

What????? CaD turning into an environmentalist???

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Pennstate
What????? CaD turning into an environmentalist???

Eh? Don't think I posted in this thread.

CkG

Edit - oops - now I did.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Pennstate
What????? CaD turning into an environmentalist???

No Cad in this thread?

 

[Pennstate]

opps sorry, I meant Charrison. You conservatives all look alike

 

[tallest1]

He noted that a huge rise in Asian demand and a recovery in the U.S. economy had contributed to the recent rise in oil, gasoline and other energy prices.

Originally posted by: Czar

was instead developing "game-changing technologies" to counter its dependence on imports.

any ideas what that might be?

A new reason to 'liberate' parts of Asia

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Pennstate
opps sorry, I meant Charrison. You conservatives all look alike

I would consider myself an environmentalist, but I doubt many greens/democrats would see me as one. I beleive it possible to rresponsably use the resources available on this planet without destroying it.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Pennstate
opps sorry, I meant Charrison. You conservatives all look alike

I would consider myself an environmentalist, but I doubt many greens/democrats would see me as one. I beleive it possible to rresponsably use the resources available on this planet without destroying it.

Same here. I stop short of hugging trees....WAY short

CkG

 

[conjur]

Bush should be the poster boy for Shoe Carnival's upcoming summer flip-flop sale.

Pushes Gore in 2000 to get OPEC to "open the spigots" then claims this year we will not beg OPEC.

BUT, now we have this:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,115810,00.html

WASHINGTON ? White House officials urged Kuwait (search) and the United Arab Emirates (search) to try to reverse OPEC's (search) decision Wednesday to reduce oil production, a move sure to drive up gas prices and intensify a volatile election-year issue. Both countries already had opposed the production cut.

President Bush expressed disappointment with the decision by the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (search) to cut its production target by 4 percent. Bush's spokesman blamed Senate Democrats for stalling Bush's plan to drill for more domestic oil and to conserve energy.


Re:that last sentence, last I checked the Senate was controlled by Republicans.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

I would consider myself an environmentalist, but I doubt many greens/democrats would see me as one. I beleive it possible to rresponsably use the resources available on this planet without destroying it.

Alas, it's not enough to be an environmentalist. We need to be conservationists as well. Even if we had the ability to continue our gorge on fossil fuels without harming the environment, many of us contend we have no right to rob future generations.

 

[TheBDB]

Where are we going to get the hydrogen for the fuel cells?

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: Dissipate
On the other hand high gas prices will make hydrogen fuel cell technology more lucrative and more firms will invest in it. It would suck for awhile but if high gas prices take us closer to an alternative energy source it may be better in the long haul. I happen to join in on the anti-SUV sentiment some people have. Driving around with huge SUVs and trucks is annoying to say the least, especially in parking lots. If people want to drive huge vehicles that's fine but I can't say I won't be laughing with cowen when gas prices sky rocket and they are stuck with an Excursion.

Is there any reason the high price of gas in Europe hasn't forced them to switch to alternative car power? I'm sure there's at least one or two scientists on the continent