U.S. Housing Market Seen Declining in 2006

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051207/ap_on_bi_ge/economic_forecast

U.S. Housing Market Seen Declining in 2006

The U.S. housing market will see a sustained decline next year, causing a drag on the nation's economy but falling short of triggering a recession, according to a new economic report.

"We expect housing to start slowing the economy this quarter or the next," Edward Leamer, director of the quarterly University of California, Los Angeles, Anderson Forecast, wrote in the report to be released later Wednesday.

The cooldown in the housing sector is likely to be spread over several years, with as many 500,000 construction jobs and 300,000 financial sector jobs lost, the report said.

"Some jobs in manufacturing might well disappear as a result of weakness in housing, but this may be offset by jobs brought home or not lost to foreign competition," Leamer wrote.

The current report cites several signs that the decline could be underway:

? New construction of housing in October was down 5.6 percent from the previous month, with new construction of single-family housing accounting for a 3.7 percent dip.

? New home sales have declined.

? Applications for home mortgages have trended downward since late September as rates increased.

? In some regions, homes are remaining unsold longer and the pace of housing construction is outpacing population growth, which could spell a decline in demand.

"On all these grounds, we believe housing is due for a sustained decline," economist Michael Bazdarich wrote in the Anderson Forecast. "The remaining questions are how hard the fall will be and when it will begin."

 

Genx87

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Those media folk are nothing short of genius.
Higher interest rates equals lower demand for housing?
I am packing up and running for the hills right now!
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Those media folk are nothing short of genius.
Higher interest rates equals lower demand for housing?
I am packing up and running for the hills right now!
I know, it is obvious. But for some reason so many people here say that it is impossible for housing demand to decrease.
 

piasabird

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Actually if you buy a house for an investment and can still sell it, when the price goes up you make money.
 

conjur

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Can we get a resounding, "Duh!"?


;)


Esp. once the interest rate hike hits again. There goes the home equity loan financed "recovery"
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Time to buy :)

Good news for me, the buyer.

Possibly, but let's hope for you that the market declines far enough to make up for the higher interest rates.
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Time to buy :)

Good news for me, the buyer.


and I hope it affects Iceland as well :D

I'm a buyer... 1-2 years will be good for us I hope
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: piasabird
Actually if you buy a house for an investment and can still sell it, when the price goes up you make money.
That has to be one of the most pointless statements I've ever read. If you buy something and wait for the price to go up, you make money. Wow! Who'd have thought that? When prices rise on things you sell, you gain? I'm shocked. ;)

The key to remember is that when housing prices in your area fall, it often takes 5-10 years for the prices to return to their former levels. Proof. Heck, if you read the article, sometimes it is 20+ years to return. That is, your money will sit for 5-10 years earning absolutely nothing. Add several more years if you want to get back inflation. But, heres the killer. During those 5-20 years, you are paying real estate taxes and possibly utility bills (to keep pipes from freezing), interest, insurance, etc. Include all those and it can easilly be 30 years to break even. It is not really a good investment to wait out a housing fall. Buying at or near the bottom is a completely different story though.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: Aimster
Time to buy :)

Good news for me, the buyer.
Possibly, but let's hope for you that the market declines far enough to make up for the higher interest rates.
Doubtful but let's hope. I'll be in the market next year.
 

dullard

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I do want to keep clarifying this. January housing construction was strong for a typical
January. But, still, actual construction spending was down. Proof, Table 1.
Building Spending Levels:
Nov 2005: $28.069B
Dec 2005: $25.945B
Jan 2005: $24.274B

Notice the actual decline? What really happened, is the seasonal adjustment factor surged to the largest adjustment jump in 3 decades. Housing prices depend on actual spending amounts, not adjusted amounts.
 

magomago

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yayy come down prices come down! Going to graduate in two years, would love if by 2009 prices were lower. Then again over here the price of a house in CA will go from 700,000 to 650,000~ so it isn't like it matters that much ;)
 

OrByte

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I think we all want a soft landing, in the event of a decline.

A bubble bursting wouldn't be good for buyers/sellers/construction industry/and on and on etc etc.

 

ntdz

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Originally posted by: OrByte
I think we all want a soft landing, in the event of a decline.

A bubble bursting wouldn't be good for buyers/sellers/construction industry/and on and on etc etc.

The only people it'd be good for is the Bush haters in the house.
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: ntdz
The only people it'd be good for is the Bush haters in the house.
A bad economy is bad for all of us. Your logic makes it seem that you want a bad economy just so you can bash Bush haters.
 

ntdz

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Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: ntdz
The only people it'd be good for is the Bush haters in the house.
A bad economy is bad for all of us. Your logic makes it seem that you want a bad economy just so you can bash Bush haters.

No, my logic says the Bush haters want a bad economy so they can blame it on Bush. I want a great economy...
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: ntdz
No, my logic says the Bush haters want a bad economy so they can blame it on Bush. I want a great economy...
But that is a false logic. No one wants a bad economy. You are trying to make Bush haters into anti-good economy people. That is a false analogy. Its a strawman argument.

If we are going to allow strawman arguments, heres mine: You want a bad economy so you can blame it on the Bush haters. See how silly that argument is? Yours is just as silly.

Bush haters want a great economy. A good economy that helps everyone and an economy that is running on all cylinders. That's why they want Bush out of the office. ;)
 

azazyel

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Unfortunately I don't think we are going to see a decline in Seattle. Just too strong of a market.
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: OrByte
I think we all want a soft landing, in the event of a decline.

A bubble bursting wouldn't be good for buyers/sellers/construction industry/and on and on etc etc.

The only people it'd be good for is the Bush haters in the house.

I would almost give you a :cookie: for that one, but dullard did a much better job! :D

I can't stand Bush but want the economy to do well as well as having a solid foundation. My job and every job of the people that I would like to see keep in the US depends on it.
 

ntdz

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Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: ntdz
No, my logic says the Bush haters want a bad economy so they can blame it on Bush. I want a great economy...
But that is a false logic. No one wants a bad economy. You are trying to make Bush haters into anti-good economy people. That is a false analogy. Its a strawman argument.

If we are going to allow strawman arguments, heres mine: You want a bad economy so you can blame it on the Bush haters. See how silly that argument is? Yours is just as silly.

Bush haters want a great economy. A good economy that helps everyone and an economy that is running on all cylinders. That's why they want Bush out of the office. ;)

It's not false logic, I'm 100% sure there are some on here that would take a bad economy in order to prove themselves right on Bush and the economy...