U.S. Government considering Taxing Email to curb Spam

[dmcowen674]

Now I know the source of all the Spam.


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Will Taxing E-Mail Stop Spam?

Will Taxing E-Mail Stop Spam?
Thu May 22, 4:00 AM ET

Grant Gross, IDG News Service

WASHINGTON-- Lawmakers, antispam activists, and even a self-professed spammer are mulling several methods for canning spam, from imposing a small charge for sending e-mail to ...

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[Alistar7]

He promised to work with Congress on any spam legislation, and threw his own spam prevention idea into the mix. Scelson advocates all e-mail applications include a "no bulk e-mail" box for customers to check, bouncing bulk e-mail back to the sender.


"It costs no money on AOL's end and no money on our end," he said. It "costs no money and gives the power back to the people. I agree that there needs to be a solution, but just don't take the freedom away from the individual."


that sounds good to me, return to sender, spam the spammers. They had better not try charging for e-mail, I already pay my ISP for that every month. My yahoo account has a bulk folder, but if you turn that off everything goes in my in-box. I can delete the bulk folder with one click, and usually get up to 100 a day on that account but I would much rather see it routed directly back and not see it myself. I still get 25 a day that slip through and make it to my inbox.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

So we're going to need a credit card attached to our hotmail/yahoo email accts? Yeah right

How will they "charge/tax" me since I run my own personal mail server? Hmm...

This all sounds like a Beaucratic and legislative crap that unfortunately isn't possible to enforce.

CkG

 

[Alistar7]

how would the US govt. tax companies e-mailing from foreign countries, offshore platforms, satelite ISP's?

how about a worldwide ban on internet taxation?

We the people, have decided all govt.s are corrupt and self-serving and hereby order you to stay out of the computer industry and the internet.

 

[Nitemare]

Isn't the email tax thing a hoax from like 8 years ago?

 

[Nitemare]

Personally, i would like to see all spammers shot to death and those that forward chain letters, hoaxes and viruses beaten within an inch of their lifew and then incarcerated for 5-20 years....


but then again I support the mandatory passing of IQ tests as well as computer competency exams before being allowed to purchase computers...

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Personally, i would like to see all spammers shot to death and those that forward chain letters, hoaxes and viruses beaten within an inch of their lifew and then incarcerated for 5-20 years....


but then again I support the mandatory passing of IQ tests as well as computer competency exams before being allowed to purchase computers...

it's soft liberals like you that are the problem.....

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Personally, i would like to see all spammers shot to death and those that forward chain letters, hoaxes and viruses beaten within an inch of their lifew and then incarcerated for 5-20 years....

but then again I support the mandatory passing of IQ tests as well as computer competency exams before being allowed to purchase computers...

hey now, alot of us make good money helping those idiots out......

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Personally, i would like to see all spammers shot to death and those that forward chain letters, hoaxes and viruses beaten within an inch of their lifew and then incarcerated for 5-20 years....


but then again I support the mandatory passing of IQ tests as well as computer competency exams before being allowed to purchase computers...

it's soft liberals like you that are the problem.....

You got me....Daschle is my hero...I want to be like Tom

 

[Bleep]

It seems as the gov is thinking backwards on the spam issue.
Treat lt like a sales tax so that the one that gets the mail pays a fee. that way if you dont pay your fee they shut off your spam.

Bleep

 

[JellyBaby]

The greed of our political elite never ceases to amaze me.

 

[zephyrprime]

So we're going to need a credit card attached to our hotmail/yahoo email accts? Yeah right

How will they "charge/tax" me since I run my own personal mail server? Hmm...

I woule speculate that they would get ISPs to report how much email their customers are sending and tax accordingly.

 

[KenGr]

If you outlaw spam, only outlaws will send spam.

 

[Vadatajs]

The government doesn't own the lines, therefore, they have no right to tax.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Vadatajs
The government doesn't own the lines, therefore, they have no right to tax.

Looked at your phone bill lately?

CkG

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Vadatajs
The government doesn't own the lines, therefore, they have no right to tax.

The govermnment taxes what ever they want. Anything.

This meassure is being sold as a lie. The governments insatiable appitite is why they want it. Anyone can dowload spam filters to stop spam.

 

[JellyBaby]

The govermnment taxes what ever they want. Anything.

It's easy to pick the pocket of someone who is distracted.

It's amazing how many tools are available to manage spam and how competition is helping. One ISP may offer to zap spam even before it gets to your mailbox, an advantage over an ISP that lacks this handy feature.

The best solution is for standards organizations to get together and produce a secure, open-source email standard that prevents headers from being forged. I don't see why this can't happen. Some ISPs with run with it and consumers will buy it up if it works.

But if a pay-per-email solution is adopted, it should be private companies competing for service to keep costs low.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Vadatajs
The government doesn't own the lines, therefore, they have no right to tax.

Looked at your phone bill lately?

CkG

He must not pay the bills.

Nearly 50% of the bill is Government "Mandated" taxes.

There is a tax for all kinds of things that have nothing to do with your actual phone service:

A Tax to help those that can't afford phone service (and why are we paying for them to have phone service?)

A Tax to run cable in rural area that again can't afford the expense themselves.
(If they choose to live in the boonies then why do have to pay for them to live there?)

A Tax for Local Number Portability
(A service that isn't even in place yet, where supposedly if you move you can keep your same number and again why do we all have to pay every month for those that are moving if we don't move ourselves?)

A Tax for 911 services
(OK this one partially makes sense but aren't Emergency services paid for other ways as well, sounds like double dipping on the taxpayers)

and the list goes on and on.

Our Natural Gas bill is even a whole lot worse. 60% of the bill is Taxes! We have our Gas nearly off for the summer, only use a little on the stove. This month we used $25.47 in actual Gas therms used but the bill is $70.71!

See this thread for the cost breakdown of all the Taxes
Natural Gas increases scam or Earth running out?

 

[conjur]

Can't the taxes come out of that $5 Bill Gates is going to pay me for every email I send??

 

[Vadatajs]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Vadatajs
The government doesn't own the lines, therefore, they have no right to tax.

Looked at your phone bill lately?

CkG

touche'

Anyway, I'm sure nobody disagrees with my thinking on this one.

Didn't they try this a couple of years ago but instead of killing spam, the goal was to fund the post office?

 

[SnapIT]

In communist america, e-mail taxes YOU!

 

[Ltroy24]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Personally, i would like to see all spammers shot to death and those that forward chain letters, hoaxes and viruses beaten within an inch of their lifew and then incarcerated for 5-20 years....


but then again I support the mandatory passing of IQ tests as well as computer competency exams before being allowed to purchase computers...

it's soft liberals like you that are the problem.....

You got me....Daschle is my hero...I want to be like Tom

You should be incarerated for 5-20 years just for saying "Daschle is my hero" I saw him interviewed before the war being all anti war and blah blah. Yesterday i saw him iterviewed supporting the war in iraq. I hate Bastardo's like him.

 

[Ltroy24]

Originally posted by: Alistar7
how would the US govt. tax companies e-mailing from foreign countries, offshore platforms, satelite ISP's?

how about a worldwide ban on internet taxation?

We the people, have decided all govt.s are corrupt and self-serving and hereby order you to stay out of the computer industry and the internet.

LOL what are you talking about Al Gore invented the internet he can do what ever he wants with it.

O ya and hasnt anyone ever heard of a spam blocker my Norton keeps me 99% spam free when i get on a computer without a spam blocker i am like whats all this crap.

 

[dmcowen674]

France Bans the Term 'E-Mail'

Maybe they won't get Spam anymore either...

 

[jjones]

This is not a spam tax. It's just another method they are seeking to impose tax on general internet usage. If they can't get at it directly, they come in from the side under the guise of do-good lawmaking. Pick it apart and address a so-called "problem", putting in place one tax at a time and trying to be subtle about it by saying it's being proposed to help the hapless bumblers using the internet.

What it really is, is big untapped sources of tax revenues just waiting for them if they can only maintain the typical divide and conquer routine and keep the wool from slipping.