U.S. Border Patrol Has Kept a Teenage U.S. Citizen Locked Up for Nearly a Month

[JEDIYoda]

That's completely dishonest.

Yeah right! Whatever!!

 

[JEDIYoda]

That's completely dishonest.

Nowhere does it say his birth certificate was false! why? Because he was born in the United States! The Border patrol and ICE both dropped the ball!!

The Morning News reviewed a copy of the birth certificate, and they confirm that it reports Galicia was born at Parkland Memorial Hospital in Dallas on December 24, 2000. And when CBP stopped him, he reportedly was carrying a wallet-sized copy of his birth certificate, his Social Security card, and a Texas ID that's only available to citizens with Social Security numbers.

 

[Lanyap]

Looks like CBP also managed to bald face lie to congress about this specific case as well:

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/imm...laimed-us-citizenship-document-says-otherwise

What a fantastic organization.

You left out a key quote from the article you posted. The older brother had been using a U.S. visitors visa 50+ times saying he was a Mexican citizen. He has been using this border crossing card saying he is a Mexican citizen but then he gets stopped and pulls out US documents. See the conflict here?

At a House Judiciary Committee oversight hearing, Brian Hastings, Chief of Law Enforcement at the U.S. Border Patrol, also said that Galicia was detained because it was discovered he had used a U.S. visitors visa that his mother got for him when he was a minor to travel back and forth from Mexico more than 50 times.

Federal law gives immigration enforcement agents jurisdiction within 100 miles of the border, which is defined as any external boundary, like an ocean. Within those 100 miles, agents can interrogate and arrest anyone without a warrant, as long as they have “reasonable cause to suspect that grounds exist for denial of admission to the United States,” the law says.

Here's a good explanation.
https://www.vox.com/2018/6/21/17490904/customs-border-protection-patrol-checkpoints-100-miles-legal
Why it’s legal for Border Patrol to have checkpoints in the US

https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/1084/~/legal-authority-for-the-border-patrol


This should answer the questions about why they were stopped and why he was detained. IMO even with the citizenship question he should not have been held as long as he was.

 

[Lanyap]

Your link is bogus! You did not read your own link! Nowhere in your link does it say - If someone in the car is suspected or found to be illegal, which is what happened, they take the entire car for processing. That's how it works. - No thats not how it works! That link does not say they can take the entire car for processing!! lie much???

You see the proof we asked for was a link that says that border patrol can take the entire car for processing!! Duh...these kids were not smuggling drugs and there was no contraband found in their vehicle!! Sorry!!

While your are technically correct, it does say this.

Two key court decisions affirm the authority of the Border patrol to operate checkpoints and to question occupants of vehicles about their citizenship, request document proof of immigration status, and make quick observations of what is in plain view in the interior of the vehicle.

 

[K1052]

This should answer the questions about why they were stopped and why he was detained. IMO even with the citizenship question he should not have been held as long as he was.

DHS’s own documentation refutes the testimony that he never claimed to be a US citizen. They continued to hold him well after proof of citizenship was provided.

 

[JEDIYoda]

While your are technically correct, it does say this.

I forgot nothing! Nowhere does it say that the border patrol can confiscate the vehicle...….so what is your point? When it was argued that in this case the Border patrol could have taken the vehicle! So what are you saying......just something that was made plain in the link that did not state they could take the vehicle!
Of course they can look in the vehicle and with probably cause....but being illegal is NOT probably cause!

 

[JEDIYoda]

You left out a key quote from the article you posted. The older brother had been using a U.S. visitors visa 50+ times saying he was a Mexican citizen. He has been using this border crossing card saying he is a Mexican citizen but then he gets stopped and pulls out US documents. See the conflict here?




Federal law gives immigration enforcement agents jurisdiction within 100 miles of the border, which is defined as any external boundary, like an ocean. Within those 100 miles, agents can interrogate and arrest anyone without a warrant, as long as they have “reasonable cause to suspect that grounds exist for denial of admission to the United States,” the law says.

Here's a good explanation.
https://www.vox.com/2018/6/21/17490904/customs-border-protection-patrol-checkpoints-100-miles-legal
Why it’s legal for Border Patrol to have checkpoints in the US

https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/1084/~/legal-authority-for-the-border-patrol


This should answer the questions about why they were stopped and why he was detained. IMO even with the citizenship question he should not have been held as long as he was.

Actually we all agfree that he was detained way longer than he should be even after he had the forms that he was told to carry with him, all of which were legal! There is really no exscuse for holding this person for 3 weeks.....

 

[Jhhnn]

You left out a key quote from the article you posted. The older brother had been using a U.S. visitors visa 50+ times saying he was a Mexican citizen. He has been using this border crossing card saying he is a Mexican citizen but then he gets stopped and pulls out US documents. See the conflict here?

Which is bullshit. Galicia was first detained & finger printed, despite producing a valid Texas driver's license, only then was the mexican visa discovered. You'll also notice that the CBP intentionally left out when that visa was last used, likely many years prior.