U.S. Appeals Court Killed Net Neutrality

[IronWing]

Those of us who value the arrival of ad content prior to page content will find wisdom in this ruling.

 

[spidey07]

Those of us who value the arrival of ad content prior to page content will find wisdom in this ruling.

That's not how the internet works, nor how a web browser works, nor would a carrier really be able to effectively differentiate ads vs legitimate content.

Anybody who supports net neutrality or the bullshit scare tactics simply doesn't understand how the Internet works and can be summarily dismissed as an idiot.

 

[BoberFett]

Yeap, this exactly. We have the worst for both worlds, regulation preventing competition and no constraint on the profit motive to abuse that lack of competition.

Glad to see we can agree on some things. :thumbsup:

 

[BoberFett]

The companies have all bought out each other, causing mini monopolies everywhere.

"Idiot"= "I have no argument, so I will have a hissy fit."

Cable companies were local monopolies long before market consolidation.

 

[MrPickins]

Anybody who supports net neutrality or the bullshit scare tactics simply doesn't understand how the Internet works and can be summarily dismissed as an idiot.

Tell us how you really feel...

 

[CitizenKain]

That's not how the internet works, nor how a web browser works, nor would a carrier really be able to effectively differentiate ads vs legitimate content.

Anybody who supports net neutrality or the bullshit scare tactics simply doesn't understand how the Internet works and can be summarily dismissed as an idiot.

No kidding, rightwing idiot defending this, what a surprise.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Cool, so I should see my Internet bill from Comcast decrease now right?

 

[spidey07]

No kidding, rightwing idiot defending this, what a surprise.

No kidding, surprise, a libtard wants government to control the Internet and stifle innovation, advancement and service.

 

[spidey07]

Cool, so I should see my Internet bill from Comcast decrease now right?

In a way, yes. ISPs can offer you better services for less cost.

Net Neutrality drives up costs, reduces per customer bandwidth and prevents ISPs from offering the best service technology can provide. It's a TERRIBLE idea and would be the biggest single worst thing to ever happen to the Internet, it's that bad.

The technology now is to push application recognition into routing hardware so that all streaming video would be a picture perfect experience. Net Neutrality would prevent that from ever happening and you'll be forced to put up with your crappy IP video. It's a TERRIBLE idea.

 

[CitizenKain]

No kidding, surprise, a libtard wants government to control the Internet and stifle innovation, advancement and service.

Its funny you can't explain how it would do this, but I guess you are waiting to told what to parrot next.

 

[spidey07]

Its funny you can't explain how it would do this, but I guess you are waiting to told what to parrot next.

I have explained how the internet works to you before, I'm not going to do it again.

 

[CitizenKain]

I have explained how the internet works to you before, I'm not going to do it again.

I doubt it. I don't remember any drawings written in crayon being posted here with a picture of a cloud in the middle that says INTERNET and lines pointing at it.

 

[Texashiker]

Anybody who supports net neutrality or the bullshit scare tactics simply doesn't understand how the Internet works and can be summarily dismissed as an idiot.

Kinda like how verizon can block aftermarket tether software so people can not use their smartphone as a wireless modem?

In other words, verizon is blocking applications that compete with their own products.

That is the kind of stuff net neutrality is supposed to stop.

 

[ch33zw1z]

In a way, yes. ISPs can offer you better services for less cost.

Net Neutrality drives up costs, reduces per customer bandwidth and prevents ISPs from offering the best service technology can provide. It's a TERRIBLE idea and would be the biggest single worst thing to ever happen to the Internet, it's that bad.

The technology now is to push application recognition into routing hardware so that all streaming video would be a picture perfect experience. Net Neutrality would prevent that from ever happening and you'll be forced to put up with your crappy IP video. It's a TERRIBLE idea.

My bill won't go down, the money saved will not make it back to the customers. It never does. Not once has any one of my telco bills ever decreased.

We went over this before, they want to use application recognition instead of upgrading infrastructure to handle the increased load. That may work for some time, but we'll see how long it lasts.

Again, that money saved will NOT make it back to me in any way, shape, or form.

 

[fskimospy]

My bill won't go down, the money saved will not make it back to the customers. It never does. Not once has any one of my telco bills ever decreased.

We went over this before, they want to use application recognition instead of upgrading infrastructure to handle the increased load. That may work for some time, but we'll see how long it lasts.

Again, that money saved will NOT make it back to me in any way, shape, or form.

Hey, if you don't like their service you can always switch to their nonexistent competitor.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Hey, if you don't like their service you can always switch to their nonexistent competitor.

all the rage I hear, it's "wireless"

 

[IronWing]

In a way, yes. ISPs can offer you better services for less cost.

Net Neutrality drives up costs, reduces per customer bandwidth and prevents ISPs from offering the best service technology can provide. It's a TERRIBLE idea and would be the biggest single worst thing to ever happen to the Internet, it's that bad.

The technology now is to push application recognition into routing hardware so that all streaming video would be a picture perfect experience. Net Neutrality would prevent that from ever happening and you'll be forced to put up with your crappy IP video. It's a TERRIBLE idea.

So my internet will get even slower because someone else is watching a movie? Is this going to turn into an airline style pay-extra-for-features-you-already-were-paying-for scenario pitting customers against each other in a bidding war for bandwidth they all already paid for?

 

[spidey07]

My bill won't go down, the money saved will not make it back to the customers. It never does. Not once has any one of my telco bills ever decreased.

We went over this before, they want to use application recognition instead of upgrading infrastructure to handle the increased load. That may work for some time, but we'll see how long it lasts.

Again, that money saved will NOT make it back to me in any way, shape, or form.

Your service has increased without a price increase thanks to technological innovations that net neutrality would prevent. It has come back to you indirectly. That's why it's such a terrible idea.

And pure bandwidth doesn't solve video sensitive jitter or delay.

 

[ch33zw1z]

So my internet will get even slower because someone else is watching a movie? Is this going to turn into an airline style pay-extra-for-features-you-already-were-paying-for scenario pitting customers against each other in a bidding war for bandwidth they all already paid for?

no no no, that would never happen, only the most well intentioned ideas will be asserted.

 

[waggy]

lol choice? hahahah

 

[ch33zw1z]

Your service has increased without a price increase thanks to technological innovations that net neutrality would prevent. It has come back to you indirectly. That's why it's such a terrible idea.

And pure bandwidth doesn't solve video sensitive jitter or delay.

My prices sure as shit increase. Maybe yours don't, but since I have no competition except dialup, then they can raise prices until they're told to stop by who exactly...

 

[fskimospy]

So my internet will get even slower because someone else is watching a movie? Is this going to turn into an airline style pay-extra-for-features-you-already-were-paying-for scenario pitting customers against each other in a bidding war for bandwidth they all already paid for?

Then they can put in data caps that apply to everyone's services but their own, which sounds like a peachy idea.

The one thing I hear most often is how people wish their home internet plan were more like their wireless plan.

 

[spidey07]

So my internet will get even slower because someone else is watching a movie? Is this going to turn into an airline style pay-extra-for-features-you-already-were-paying-for scenario pitting customers against each other in a bidding war for bandwidth they all already paid for?

No, in fact the technology would do the exact opposite. Offer great service for all applications so that one can't dominate and cause performance problems for the other.

Net neutrality is what would cause your scenario or somebody's video causing your performance to suffer. That's why you don't want it.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Can the FCC / FTC step in and break up these monopolies?

There is no fucking choice.

 

[BoberFett]

No, in fact the technology would do the exact opposite. Offer great service for all applications so that one can't dominate and cause performance problems for the other.

Net neutrality is what would cause your scenario or somebody's video causing your performance to suffer. That's why you don't want it.

That description does not match with your promise of perfect IP video.