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Tyson is OUT!

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I must come to Tyson's defense here for just one second, but let me first stated that I am no bleeding heart by any stretch.

I truly, honestly think that Tyson is not all there mentally. If it hasn't even been medically proven, it should be. I think that Don King and the other people know that he has great physical prowess and they take advantage of it. The man has to be mentally ill in some form or fashion, he just has to be. There, I've said my piece. Agree with me or not, you have to admit, the guy isn't all there.
 


<< I truly, honestly think that Tyson is not all there mentally. If it hasn't even been medically proven, it should be. The man has to be mentally ill in some form or fashion, he just has to be. There, I've said my piece. >>



All the more reason to keep him out of the ring. A boxing match with Tyson is nothing more than a cock fight using human beings. He's an embarassment to his sport, his race, his gender, his species, his nationality, and his planet.
 
I thought Tyson was bipolar and suppose to take medication which he denies and refuses to take the medication ? At least that's what I heard.

I agree after the biting Holyfield's ear he should have been thrown out of boxing. I would like to see him fight a gorilla though that would about be his last best fight.
 
read this at HBO boxing, pretty good assessment

but I still think you goons expect too much out of gladiators; they're only in the light for our entertainment



<< TYSON FIASCO
January 25, 2002


The Nevada State Athletic Commission has two choices on Jan. 29 and neither of them are good ones.

It can deny Mike Tyson a license and face the wrath of the powerful casino interests in Nevada who have allegedly been making veiled threats about their future support for boxing if the Tyson-Lennox Lewis fight doesn't come off or they can approve his license request and dishonor themselves.

Considering what's involved here, bet on dishonor over disembowelment.

Mike Tyson is going to get out of this confrontation one way or another, regardless of what the NSAC does on Tuesday. He may get so far as hearing the first bell ring (which will mean everyone gets paid which is the real aim of prize fighting), but no one will hear the last bell ring because he'll do something to end this long before Lewis does.

That's because as much as everyone else may want to see this fight happen, Mike Tyson does not share that feeling.

Tyson has been a bully and a runner all his life. He seeks out people he can intimidate and rolls over them. But on the few nights that does not work - as it did not against Buster Douglas, Evander Holyfield, Don King and Robin Givens - the lion turns into a lamb.

He acquiesces to their stronger wills. He complies. Ultimately he surrenders or he runs away. Sometimes he does both.

In Holyfield's case, that required being what the fight game calls a game quitter, which means you take your beating like a man but make no effort to win any more after a certain point in the fight. Same was true against Douglas despite the landing of a lucky punch in the ninth round that nearly saved Tyson.

In the second Holyfield fight he wasn't even up to that, finding an out that he knew would be acceptable to the people he likes to spend time with and would confuse most of the rest of the world which doesn't understand much about human nature or the psychology of confrontation.

That second night with Holyfield, Tyson was going to do anything necessary to get out of facing what he could not face - which was not so much Holyfield himself but his own fear of what was coming. So he bit his way back to the safety of his locker room.

On Tuesday, Tyson tried the intimidation game on Lewis when he stalked across the room at a press conference and confronted him after both sides had agreed that would not take place. When Lewis didn't back up, Tyson stood for a moment in stunned confusion before realizing he had best end this as soon as possible. So he took a swipe at a bodyguard in a business suit who had stepped between them.

Are you really naive enough to believe a three-time heavyweight champion of the world could throw a left hook at a man in a business suit whose hands were by his waist and not hit him if he was punching with bad intentions?

What Tyson was doing was hoping to create just what he created - a confused melee in which a mass of bodies would come between him and Lewis just as they did between him and Holyfield after the second time he bit him. In that fight, it was only after 50 people stood between him and the heavyweight champion that Tyson began to bark. The same pattern existed Tuesday with a different champion.

Although much of the real world cannot accept or believe Tyson is a scared boy inside that lumbering mass of flesh, it has always been that way. He has been fractured since his amateur days, including the night he dissolved into a sea of tears of self-doubt before the AAU Nationals in Colorado Springs and walked out of the arena in his boxing gear because he was afraid to fight a guy he would end up knocking out in 30 seconds.

Bullies have always reacted this way when someone finally stands up to them. To his credit, that is what Lewis did. He did not attack Tyson when the ex-champion walked toward him but neither did he back up. He waited patiently for him to arrive and when he did he doubled up his fists and prepared for action. When Tyson saw that, he swung at a bodyguard. He never took a poke at Lewis and never said a foul word to him.

The words were reserved for the assembled media long after Lewis left and Tyson knew he was on safe ground again. But if the NSAC approves his license application with a close vote, as insiders insist it will, Tyson will seek other ways to avoid what he cannot face.

Whether he acts up at the hearing or acts out later or gets himself in trouble again or claims an injury (which he's done by unofficial count eight times in his career) or simply waits for Fight Night to turn into Fright Night, he will do something because he is afraid.

Not afraid of Lewis. Not even afraid of losing, although the consequences of that terrify him. Afraid, really, of admitting he's afraid. afraid to confront the most elemental of human emotions - fear of the unknown.

He is afraid of the consequences of what comes if Lewis does to him again what he did on Tuesday - which was stand up to him and punch him in the head. He is afraid not simply of taking a beating because he has already survived that. He is afraid of facing his own fears, as all great fighters must.

Years ago a gnarled little troll of a man named Cus D'Amato used to train Tyson. He told him many things. One thing he often said to Tyson and the rest of his fighters was, ``The guy who spends all his time trying to intimidate you becomes intimidated when it don't work.''

Maybe Tyson heard those words as he got to Lewis and saw the champion towering over him, willing to face whatever Tyson was bringing to him. His reaction was predictable. He found a way to get out of facing that and he will find some way to get out of facing what he has to face on April 6 at the MGM Grand Hotel in Las Vegas.

The NSAC may not help him with that but he knows there are other escape routes he can follow. The only thing he has to decide is which one it will be.
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The fight will happen overseas.

Other states will probably honor Nevada's rejection. If Nevada did not give in to the $$$ angle, the other states will not wish to show that they can be bought off.

Tyson has not shown that he is a professional person able to make his own choices and practically admitted that in fron of the commission. His remarks after the hearing showed it.
 
I just heard that Lewis is now confirming that Tyson DID definately bite him on the leg and Lewis says "The fact is that Mike Tyson bit through my trousers and took a significant piece of flesh out of my thigh,".

The Tyson camp said they wanted photos though so who knows..........IMO, knowing Tyson and his reputation, it doesn't seem logical that Tyson's people would be demanding pictures if it were true.................

 
yeah, i heard this news on howard stern, i got to agree, hey tyson, you just have to grow up, boy... by the way, he lost an opportunity of taking 20 million because of that trick he pulled at the news conference. :disgust:
 
SirFshAlot

Great article, my feelings exactly.
Lewis is going to send him to the floor and he knows it. What a pathetic representation of world class boxing. Tyson is done.
 
SirFshALot, you're right about his rape conviction and allegations--technically, he served his time, and this should not affect his boxing eligibility.
Likewise, his current allegation is by law nothing more than an allegation until he is proven guilty. So that shouldn't affect his eligibility either.
But what SHOULD affect his eligibility is his constant screwing around in the ring and at press conferences. He has a reputation for being a lunatic--biting, striking long after the bell has rung, and even continuing to fight after the bell as people try to hold him back.
The boxing commission isn't thinking twice about letting an ex-convict fight, they're concerned about letting a nutball fight who will bring much consternation down upon a sport that many who don't understand already consider to be disgusting and barbaric.

Think of it this way--who has done worse? Pete Rose or Mike Tyson? How does Pete Rose get a lifetime ban from his profession for gambling, while Tyson, who does what would be the boxing equivalent of repeatedly beating the opposing pitcher with his bat just gets a slap on the wrist?

He was a great boxer, but he became more and more out of control, and now he should be put away.
 
People,It takes two to make a fight. I submit that the best way to hurt Tyson is for Lewis to take the high ground and deny Tyson a title fight. I think he can do it legally and I think it would be the right moral thing to do. Tyson should in no way be rewarded for his abhorant behavior, here in the US or over seas.

Lewis is the champ. Its time to move on and let other contenders try for the title.

Tyson is history; bad history.:disgust:
 
Lewis was the one that wanted to sue Tyson if he didn't fight him, so i don't see him backing out
anyway Tyson is obviously crazy, but

<< What a pathetic representation of world class boxing >>

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what world class boxing, heavy weight boxing shouldn't be called world class, and Tyson was the man who brought Heavy weight boxing back into the spot light, and what about the little fight Lewis and that other guy had on the espn interview, no one had a problem with that, but because Tyson gets in a fight everyone gets all pissed, nice little double standard you all got going on
 
Mr Tyson is clearly not all there.. what's ad is that his wacked out antics are cheapening a sport that doesn't need anymore bad press.

 


<< People,It takes two to make a fight. I submit that the best way to hurt Tyson is for Lewis to take the high ground and deny Tyson a title fight. I think he can do it legally and I think it would be the right moral thing to do. Tyson should in no way be rewarded for his abhorant behavior, here in the US or over seas.

Lewis is the champ. Its time to move on and let other contenders try for the title.

Tyson is history; bad history.:disgust:
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I agree.....Tyson is a mentally unstable idiot, but, as was said above, Lewis was the one whom made the threats of a law suit if Tyson didn't agree to fight him. Lewis himself, as well as a large majority of boxing fans will always wonder if Tyson could have beaten him, and some are already commenting about that.......Problem is, would Tyson actually fight, or resort to animalistic acts once again in the ring???????

IMHO Lewis almost has to stay commited to this fight.........as far as Tyson, NJ or another overseas venue will definately agree to host it and I think part of the agreement should be that if Tyson commits even one low blow or animalistic act in the ring, he should be banned from fighting anywhere ever again no matter the outcome!

As far as the comments about the sport of Pro Boxing and Tyson being a worse offender than Rose.........well, look at boxing's history and affiliations as well as some of the past boxing greats and their problems in and out of the ring..........then look at baseball throughout it's history.......sure, you have a few blemishes, but, overall boxing has a much more tarnished record and baseball has a history of permant bans for offenses...........boxing does not.......at least to my knowledge................😉
 
Lets see Tyson try and steal my pizza HE WOULD BE A DEAD MAN. What is funny about the whole thing is how money will rule out all in the end, the fight will happen some place else and it will be big. I was watching something on TV last week where they were talking about the whole license thing and how in the past even though promoters fighters etc etc have been under inditement they have been given the ok to fight or promote. To me that shows the sad state of boxing in general. But like many others when this fight happens with Lewis and Tyson I will watch it for FREE on my black box and not put any money in the pockets of those in the boxing industry such as Don King.
 
If the fight happens and nothing..um...weird happens in the ring, Tyson would stomp Lewis. Lewis is a big guy but for a heavyweight he has a glass jaw.
 


<< If the fight happens and nothing..um...weird happens in the ring, Tyson would stomp Lewis. Lewis is a big guy but for a heavyweight he has a glass jaw. >>


See....that's what I want to find out too!😉 My opinion is oppisite of that, but, I want to see for sure!😉 Apparently Lewis feels the same way based on what he said ealier today............."There are a lot of guys whom want a shot, but I want Tyson"

I think this fight will happen, when & where are the only questions now...........😉
 
i just want to see them go at it, not including biting of course, thats over the line, but boxing is a violent sport, no real point trying to pretend its something its not🙂 tysons no crazier then some rappers out there, hell if you put a beat to his latest rant its almost poetic. "i'm gonna f*ck you in the ass until you love me". man, thats deep!
 
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