TX Judge Breaks Up Lesbian Home

[dali71]

Wow, texas is just another fucked up ass backwards state. The new FL? Actually, its always been fucked up.

http://gothamist.com/2013/05/21/ray_kelly_and_bloomberg_update_new.php

At a press conference this afternoon at NYPD headquarters, Mayor Bloomberg and Commissioner Ray Kelly addressed a recent spate of anti-gay hate crimes, which included the murder of Mark Carson at the hands of a stranger in Greenwich Village this weekend. Kelly told reporters today that while hate crimes are down 30% overall since last year, crimes against homosexuals have increased by more than 70%.

But I thought New York City was a liberal bastion of tolerance? :whiste:

 

[WHAMPOM]

That has yet to be proven.

Show me the gene for gayness, and I will retract my statements and post an apology.

You do like to be backed into a corner. On one side you chose to deny your admitted "GAY" sexual tendency for moral reasons and on the other you are made "straight" with no "MORAL" choice on your side at all.

 

[5150Joker]

I'm split about this. On one hand if gays want to "marry" then I don't oppose it, let them do what they want. But I'm not sure if I feel comfortable about gays raising kids and influencing their development. So in that case I'd feel compelled to agree with what the judge did.

 

[silverpig]

I'm split about this. On one hand if gays want to "marry" then I don't oppose it, let them do what they want. But I'm not sure if I feel comfortable about gays raising kids and influencing their development. So in that case I'd feel compelled to agree with what the judge did.

You can't make someone gay by raising then in a gay household.

 

[BudAshes]

I'm split about this. On one hand if gays want to "marry" then I don't oppose it, let them do what they want. But I'm not sure if I feel comfortable about gays raising kids and influencing their development. So in that case I'd feel compelled to agree with what the judge did.

Do you know anyone with gay parents?

 

[dawp]

I'm split about this. On one hand if gays want to "marry" then I don't oppose it, let them do what they want. But I'm not sure if I feel comfortable about gays raising kids and influencing their development. So in that case I'd feel compelled to agree with what the judge did.

unless they're your kids it isn't any of your business.

 

[piasabird]

If you dont like zoning laws change them. This is how real life works.

 

[Brainonska511]

I'm split about this. On one hand if gays want to "marry" then I don't oppose it, let them do what they want. But I'm not sure if I feel comfortable about gays raising kids and influencing their development. So in that case I'd feel compelled to agree with what the judge did.

Are they going to catch the gay if the kids are raised under a gay couple?

 

[5150Joker]

You can't make someone gay by raising then in a gay household.

Are they going to catch the gay if the kids are raised under a gay couple?

While some kids probably grow up without any issues, I haven't read any studies that concretely state that children who are raised in a gay household develop without any psychological problems. LGBT community tends to point out anecdotal incidences as proof but there hasn't been any long term studies (AFAIK) to show what damage it could cause to a child. Thus I choose to veer on the side of caution.

 

[SheHateMe]

I haven't read any studies that concretely state that children who are raised in a gay household develop without any psychological problems. LGBT community tends to point out anecdotal incidences as proof but there hasn't been any long term studies (AFAIK) to show what damage it could cause to a child. Thus I choose to veer on the side of caution.

And you haven't read any studies that they grow up with psychological issues either...so really, you're just talking out of your ass.

You choose to veer on the side of caution because you are just another one of those silly people that think Gays will ruin children. There are more children with psychological issues that have one or two straights parents.....

Show me the child of a gay couple that has done something terrible in the past 60 years. I can show you several that have straight parents that have.


You need not worry or try to dictate the relationship parents/partners have and how they raise their children.

Show me a child in a Gay household that's been abused....oh wait...we only have anecdotal incidences (which are never really backed up) from people like you who claim boys raised by Gay men will be sexually abused or some poppycock like that.

 

[5150Joker]

And you haven't read any studies that they grow up with psychological issues either...so really, you're just talking out of your ass.

You choose to veer on the side of caution because you are just another one of those silly people that think Gays will ruin children. There are more children with psychological issues that have one or two straights parents.....

Show me the child of a gay couple that has done something terrible in the past 60 years. I can show you several that have straight parents that have.


You need not worry or try to dictate the relationship parents/partners have and how they raise their children.

Show me a child in a Gay household that's been abused....oh wait...we only have anecdotal incidences (which are never really backed up) from people like you who claim boys raised by Gay men will be sexually abused or some poppycock like that.

Personal attacks and assumptions of what you think I believe don't do anything to advance your cause or change my opinion. The burden of proof doesn't fall on me either, its the LGBT community to prove that children raised by them aren't harmed psychologically and/or physically. If they have credible studies demonstrating this, I'd have no issue endorsing it. Emotionally charged attacks and appeals don't work.

 

[shadow9d9]

http://gothamist.com/2013/05/21/ray_kelly_and_bloomberg_update_new.php



But I thought New York City was a liberal bastion of tolerance? :whiste:

The only liberal bastion in the US is vermont. The US is a conservative country with middle/right democrats and crazy republicans. The crazy republicans try to paint the democrats as "liberal" so they don't look as insanely extreme as they are. Compared to hick states, nyc can be considered more liberal for sure... but who isn't outside of the middle east?

 

[shadow9d9]

While some kids probably grow up without any issues, I haven't read any studies that concretely state that children who are raised in a gay household develop without any psychological problems. LGBT community tends to point out anecdotal incidences as proof but there hasn't been any long term studies (AFAIK) to show what damage it could cause to a child. Thus I choose to veer on the side of caution.

You wouldn't need studies to prove this, since the default state of thought would be that there wouldn't be any difference.

 

[Howard]

I'm very surprised that some people who are so wrong about something, can claim to know so many secrets about it.

 

[Howard]

The only liberal bastion in the US is vermont. The US is a conservative country with middle/right democrats and crazy republicans. The crazy republicans try to paint the democrats as "liberal" so they don't look as insanely extreme as they are. Compared to hick states, nyc can be considered more liberal for sure... but who isn't outside of the middle east?

Don't forget NH!

 

[dali71]

The only liberal bastion in the US is vermont. The US is a conservative country with middle/right democrats and crazy republicans. The crazy republicans try to paint the democrats as "liberal" so they don't look as insanely extreme as they are. Compared to hick states, nyc can be considered more liberal for sure... but who isn't outside of the middle east?

Obama received over 80% of the votes in NYC (all 5 boroughs), as opposed to 67% of the votes in Vermont.

 

[Angry Irishman]

Wow, texas is just another fucked up ass backwards state. The new FL? Actually, its always been fucked up.

You mean it's not as well functioning as say...New York or Cali?

 

[nehalem256]

unless they're your kids it isn't any of your business.

I thought according to liberals they were all our kids? :whiste:

 

[nehalem256]

You wouldn't need studies to prove this, since the default state of thought would be that there wouldn't be any difference.

The default state of thought would only be that there would be no difference if you see no difference between men and women.

As men and women ARE different. The default state of thought should b that there are differences.

 

[fskimospy]

Obama received over 80% of the votes in NYC (all 5 boroughs), as opposed to 67% of the votes in Vermont.

NYC is an extremely liberal place, and an extremely gay friendly one. There is a reason why there are so many gay people who live here. I have no idea what you are even trying to argue, really.

 

[Oyeve]

http://gothamist.com/2013/05/21/ray_kelly_and_bloomberg_update_new.php



But I thought New York City was a liberal bastion of tolerance? :whiste:

The actions of idiots and the law are different things. Texas is still an asshole state with its laws.

 

[silverpig]

While some kids probably grow up without any issues, I haven't read any studies that concretely state that children who are raised in a gay household develop without any psychological problems. LGBT community tends to point out anecdotal incidences as proof but there hasn't been any long term studies (AFAIK) to show what damage it could cause to a child. Thus I choose to veer on the side of caution.

Are there any studies that concretely state that children raised in a straight household develop without any psychological problems?

Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMLZO-sObzQ

 

[zsdersw]

If I wanted to argue that being gay wasn't a choice I sure as hell wouldn't post articles like this.

That's because you don't know what you're talking about (to the surprise of no one).

"Being gay" is a nebulous phrase. Is someone "being gay" if they have attraction to the same sex but don't pursue a relationship with someone of the same sex? Or does engaging in same-sex sexual acts the threshold? What if someone has attraction to the same sex but pursues a heterosexual relationship? Isn't the attraction an involuntary thing (re: not a choice) and the relationship the choice being made?

As I and others have said many times to ears and eyes as deaf and shut as yours: attraction is not a choice, only actions.

Your stupidity prevents you from seeing or talking about these important nuances.

 

[zsdersw]

People like nehalem and Texashiker bring up dogs, toasters, and minors because those are the last gasps of a dying pathology. Make no mistake, it is dying. Good riddance.

Reduction to the absurd is the ultimate concession that they've lost the battle.

 

[nehalem256]

That's because you don't know what you're talking about (to the surprise of no one).

"Being gay" is a nebulous phrase. Is someone "being gay" if they have attraction to the same sex but don't pursue a relationship with someone of the same sex? Or does engaging in same-sex sexual acts the threshold? What if someone has attraction to the same sex but pursues a heterosexual relationship? Isn't the attraction an involuntary thing (re: not a choice) and the relationship the choice being made?

As I and others have said many times to ears and eyes as deaf and shut as yours: attraction is not a choice, only actions.

Your stupidity prevents you from seeing or talking about these important nuances.

Ah, so not only does marriage mean anything, so does "being gay".

Note the bolded. Clearly you are saying that being gay is a choice. Texashiker could choose to screw guys, but since he does not want to get crap all over his penis he doesn't pursue such a relationship.