Two Weeks notice

[benliong]

I'm thinking of quiting in 2 months time. My boss sucks, I am seriously underpaid and all the promises just weren't coming through.

I am a personal friend of the boss (not anymore), so I'm wondering should I give him the standard 2 weeks notice or should I give him a month.

Pro of 2 weeks
- I'll just have to kick back and not care so much about company future

Cons of 2 weeks
- He'll have to scramble for a replacement. Right now I'm doing sales, marketing, Maintaining and design website, putting in purchase order, taking calls, basically everything there is to do I need to help. The company just consist of the boss, me and the other guy.

what do you guys think.

 

[Modeps]

find another job before you quit.

 

[RagingBITCH]

What Modeps said - don't screw the pooch until you have a backup plan.

 

[Chronoshock]

Originally posted by: Modeps
find another job before you quit.

Definetly!

 

[benliong]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
What Modeps said - don't screw the pooch until you have a backup plan.

Too true.

How do people come up with 2 weeks as an acceptable heads-up for people quiting the company anyways.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: benliong

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
What Modeps said - don't screw the pooch until you have a backup plan.

Too true.

How do people come up with 2 weeks as an acceptable heads-up for people quiting the company anyways.

Beats me - probably just became a defacto standard over time. I do the same thing as you - almost to the letter...scary

 

[Lazy8s]

Originally posted by: benliong

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
What Modeps said - don't screw the pooch until you have a backup plan.

Too true.

How do people come up with 2 weeks as an acceptable heads-up for people quiting the company anyways.

I guess it gives them enough time to move your work to other people till they can find a replacement. I would give hem a month's notice after you found a new job, no sense in getting a bad reccomendation

 

[benliong]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: benliong

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
What Modeps said - don't screw the pooch until you have a backup plan.

Too true.

How do people come up with 2 weeks as an acceptable heads-up for people quiting the company anyways.

Beats me - probably just became a defacto standard over time. I do the same thing as you - almost to the letter...scary

And you're feeling ok about it?

What industry are you in?

 

[LordSnailz]

It depends on the company ... our company is fairly large, so it's not too hard to find people with the necessary skills until they find someone to fill your position. I know in our company they would fly people across the states to help with on a project just for a few days ...

I would say give them a month notice, no big reason to burn any bridges ...

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: benliong

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: benliong

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
What Modeps said - don't screw the pooch until you have a backup plan.

Too true.

How do people come up with 2 weeks as an acceptable heads-up for people quiting the company anyways.

Beats me - probably just became a defacto standard over time. I do the same thing as you - almost to the letter...scary

And you're feeling ok about it?

What industry are you in?

Management/consulting (sell literature over improving managerial performance as well as do a little workshop/keynote/speeches, that sort of thing) What about you?

 

[bobbybe01]

Does the term blackmail mean anything to you?

 

[nan0bug]

Give him a month.

Even if he made a bunch of promises and didn't follow through, or screwed you over in any way, you can still use the reference. He knows he didn't follow through, so giving him an extra amount of time regardless of that says a lot about your character, and he won't likely forget it. Worst case scenario? You get the same reference you would get with a 2 week notice.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Lazy8s

Originally posted by: benliong

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
What Modeps said - don't screw the pooch until you have a backup plan.

Too true.

How do people come up with 2 weeks as an acceptable heads-up for people quiting the company anyways.

I guess it gives them enough time to move your work to other people till they can find a replacement. I would give hem a month's notice after you found a new job, no sense in getting a bad reccomendation

I doubt your new employer would be willing to wait a month. They obviously need someone right away or they wouldn't be hiring.

 

[benliong]

Originally posted by: Lazy8s

Originally posted by: benliong

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
What Modeps said - don't screw the pooch until you have a backup plan.

Too true.

How do people come up with 2 weeks as an acceptable heads-up for people quiting the company anyways.

I guess it gives them enough time to move your work to other people till they can find a replacement. I would give hem a month's notice after you found a new job, no sense in getting a bad reccomendation

I was planning a month notice. He's not going to be able to find someone like me in a short time though. I do the php programming behind the website, handle linux server and SSL crap, and I do the Photoshop graphics too, and designed the logo, work on making Decals. I don't think normal sales guy would be able to do that.

 

[benliong]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: benliong

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: benliong

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
What Modeps said - don't screw the pooch until you have a backup plan.

Too true.

How do people come up with 2 weeks as an acceptable heads-up for people quiting the company anyways.

Beats me - probably just became a defacto standard over time. I do the same thing as you - almost to the letter...scary

And you're feeling ok about it?

What industry are you in?

Management/consulting (sell literature over improving managerial performance as well as do a little workshop/keynote/speeches, that sort of thing) What about you?

Auto After performance industry (see sig)

 

[HamSupLo]

If you are that important, ask for a raise..can't hurt. Let me guess, you work for an asian company...probably a Taiwanese one?

 

[Doggiedog]

In my industry its 10 minutes notice until they come and escort you out.

 

[benliong]

Originally posted by: HamSupLo
If you are that important, ask for a raise..can't hurt. Let me guess, you work for an asian company...probably a Taiwanese one?

How'd you have guessed? He's a Malaysian, and I've been told he looks like William Huang (yea, scary)

The whole deal was that he was my college friend who started this thing and asked me if I want to join him as partners. So I did and I worked full time without pay until I have my visa situation resolved (Working permit and all). It took half a year, then he said the busines isn't doing too well, so instead of the 2.8k a month, I can only pay you 1.4k, but I have to report taxes as if I were getting 2.8k or he'll have trouble with the IRS.

I was thinking that's fine, as long as I still some say in the company. But lately I've been treated as if I were just a normal employee. You know, get yelled small mistake, not being able to make any decision.

So since I'm a computer science guy to begin with, I'm thinking of just quiting the whole sales / marketing scene and just be an engineer.

 

[imported_vr6]

Originally posted by: benliong

Originally posted by: HamSupLo
If you are that important, ask for a raise..can't hurt. Let me guess, you work for an asian company...probably a Taiwanese one?

How'd you have guessed? He's a Malaysian, and I've been told he looks like William Huang (yea, scary)

The whole deal was that he was my college friend who started this thing and asked me if I want to join him as partners. So I did and I worked full time without pay until I have my visa situation resolved (Working permit and all). It took half a year, then he said the busines isn't doing too well, so instead of the 2.8k a month, I can only pay you 1.4k, but I have to report taxes as if I were getting 2.8k or he'll have trouble with the IRS.

I was thinking that's fine, as long as I still some say in the company. But lately I've been treated as if I were just a normal employee. You know, get yelled small mistake, not being able to make any decision.

So since I'm a computer science guy to begin with, I'm thinking of just quiting the whole sales / marketing scene and just be an engineer.

WOW you are getting screwed big time, paid 1.4k but get taxed for 2.8k? Looks like you should go to the IRS and report him to get your money back. YOu can work retail and make twice that amount. i would be out of there in a hearbeat.

 

[300MDemon]

Can't really say...I quit with no notice whatsoever on my last job. Different set up circumstances though.

 

[JzL]

then he said the busines isn't doing too well, so instead of the 2.8k a month, I can only pay you 1.4k, but I have to report taxes as if I were getting 2.8k or he'll have trouble with the IRS.

He is taking advantage of you... plain and simple. Report his scamming a$$ to the IRS!

 

[benliong]

Originally posted by: JzL

then he said the busines isn't doing too well, so instead of the 2.8k a month, I can only pay you 1.4k, but I have to report taxes as if I were getting 2.8k or he'll have trouble with the IRS.

He is taking advantage of you... plain and simple. Report his scamming a$$ to the IRS!

He's still an ex-friend. I don't want to do that to him. Just that I've had enough of this and I don't need to be doing it if there's nothing in for me about the company.

Don't know what kind of recommendation he would give me when I leave though.

 

[HamSupLo]

Man, you call this guy your friend!? He's using you big time. Just quit already.

 

[benliong]

Originally posted by: HamSupLo
Man, you call this guy your friend!? He's using you big time. Just quit already.

well, he's an ex-friend now. I just treat him like I'd treat their boss. But I still don't want to get him into any IRS type of trouble.

People, never, I mean never, get into business with your good friend.

 

[HamSupLo]

And also don't work in Asian run companies!